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early thoughts on the 2008 schedule...

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Liver, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    jeez, this is going to be rough.

    2008 CU schedule

    Aug. 30 Colorado State (Denver)-- i'll call this one an easy win. i know the "rivalry" thing and all that, but their talent is way, way down. i think CU will pummel them.

    Sept. 6 EASTERN WASHINGTON-- this should be an easy win.

    Sept. 13 Bye

    Sept. 18 WEST VIRGINIA-- thursday night game on espn. the first real test. wvu has lost a lot and will be under a new coaching regime. i think CU has a good chance to get them. if they were a better passing team, i'd be more concerned. call it a close CU win.

    Sept. 27 Florida State (at Jacksonville)-- toss up game. fsu will have athletes and they will be basically playing a home game. another nationally televised slug fest. put this one in the "challenging" column.

    Oct. 4 TEXAS-- oh please let scott be a Buff and not a whorn. CU will have a shot at them at home, but ut is still too deep to call this one a win. another for the "challenging" column.

    Oct. 11 at Kansas-- ku is good and i think they will be good next year-- that qb is outstanding. but, i think they used up their magic last season and i don't think they can sustain it. and, i think CU will be looking for payback. but, they know how to throw and we may be challenged next year defensing the pass. put this one in the toss up column too.

    Oct. . 18 KANSAS STATE-- CU should win. ksu is going to compete, but, they don't throw it that well and CU will be at home. call it a CU win.

    Oct. 25 at Missouri-- i don't pick "sure" losses, but this one looks really tough. these guys are good and they are good at home. unless our team dramatically exceeds expectations, this one will be a dog fight. another for the challenging column.

    Nov. 1 at Texas A & M-- i think CU wins this one. with franch gone, i know they are hoping that they won't underperform as they have done, but i think CU matches up well and i'll give CU the win based upon coaching transition issues at atm.

    Nov. 8 IOWA STATE-- CU wins. at home. payback. isu just isn't that good.

    Nov. 15 OKLAHOMA STATE-- CU wins. osu is going to compete, but again, they don't pass it all that well and i think CU will get them.

    Nov. 28 at Nebraska-- CU wins. the fuskers are going to struggle next year.

    so, by my count, and early forecasting, that would give us 8 wins and 4 really tough ones. i think it will be a fun season. hawkins looks like he will exceed expectations on the recruiting front this year. if he can exceed expectations next season on the field and deliver an 8 or 9 or more win season, then i think he should get an extension.

    GO BUFFS!
     
  2. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Eight wins is my prediction, so I agree with a lot of that. I think a split of WVU/Florida State is pretty important though.
     
  3. 2HellNback

    2HellNback Well-Known Member

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    I love the Buffs, however, I have to be realistic with this schedule... 6-6 Independence Bowl in '08.
     
  4. LongHaulBuff

    LongHaulBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I see 7-5. But if they win that WVU game watch out.
     
  5. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    I think 6-8 wins is realistic. I will have a better opinion after LOI day. If Scott is a buff, that will provide a huge spark to our offense. Our talented O-line will be more experinced, our WR'S more experienced, plus Simas will be in, and then if Scott is here, that will take a load off Cody's shoulders. I think our offense has the potential to make huge strides next year. I am worried about our secondary.
     
  6. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    It's too early to come up with a game-by-game prediction on many of these, but if we split the 6 games I see at this point as toss-ups, that would put as at 7-5.

    Aug. 30 — Colorado State (Denver)-- W
    Sept. 6 — EASTERN WASHINGTON-- W
    Sept. 18 — WEST VIRGINIA-- toss-up
    Sept. 27 — Florida State (at Jacksonville)-- toss-up
    Oct. 4 — TEXAS-- L
    Oct. 11 — at Kansas-- toss-up
    Oct. . 18 — KANSAS STATE-- W
    Oct. 25 — at Missouri-- L
    Nov. 1 — at Texas A & M-- toss-up
    Nov. 8 — IOWA STATE-- W
    Nov. 15 — OKLAHOMA STATE-- toss-up
    Nov. 28 — at Nebraska-- toss-up
     
  7. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    I would throw the Texas game as a toss-up, I just think we are "due" against them to at leats have a close hard fought battle.
     
  8. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    I honestly think you are setting yourself up for a huge disapointment if you expect next year's team to win 8 games.

    That schedule is brutal.
     
  9. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    :cool:
     
  10. sackman

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    I think it comes down to a couple things. One, how well are we able to replace Jordan Dizon? My best guess is: pretty well, with the return of Sipili and Burton along with Katoa, Moehler & Major. We should be deep and talented at LB. Young, but talented and deep. Second question: can we get a pass rush from the front four? That will depend on whether Herrod, Obi and Perri can be as good as we all think they can be. Without a sustained rush from the front four, we'll get torched by KU, MU, and WVA. Third, will Cody be the guy or not? I've heard rumblings that it may very well be Ballenger. Spring and fall camp will be very meaningful this year. It's going to be interesting. Lastly, will the running game improve enough to take the pressure off of the QB and grind out 200YPG on the ground? A lot of that has to do with how well the O-line gels and whether Darrell Scott is a Buff or not. That isn't to say that Polk, Lockeridge and Gates aren't good, more that Scott is a gamebreaker type who makes opposing defenses account specifically for him. When you get the opposing defense keying on one player, that opens up things for the other 10 players on offense.

    SO, if we see all of those things come together as I HOPE they do, I wouldn't be surprised at an 11-1 type season. If they don't show any improvement over what they did this year, then I think another 6-6 season is reasonable. In the end, I think 7-8 wins is probably right in the ballpark.
     
  11. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    this is CU football! our expectations are in line with the expectations of the administration too, i think. if you think 8 games is beyond the realm of possibilities, you should go root for baylor. CU just had its first back to back losing seasons in over twenty years. if CU has another losing season next year, hawkins' job will be incredibly insecure.

    the schedule IS brutal, but this guy didn't get hired to deliver .500 teams. barnett could have done that in his sleep, even with his crappy recruiting the last few years. this guy got hired to WIN.

    the general public's expectations are probably right around your expectations--- oh, around .500 or so... but, i think us boosters, hardcore fans, and the admin and everyone else around the program are expecting more than that. a 6-6 or 7-5 or worse type of a season will not meet our expectations.
     
  12. LongHaulBuff

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    I think to expect a team that won 2 yes TWO games a year ago and is having a good recruiting cycle to win 8 yes EIGHT games against this schedule is borderline nuts. I am a fan have been for 20 years and I'm hoping for what your demanding it seems. IF 7-5 or 6-6 next year lands Hawk on the hot seat. Than someone needs to have their head examined.:pissed3: Leave him alone and judge him after '09 season. Have faith in him as a coach. We gain 4 wins this year. That does not = 10 this year and 14 in '09.:wtf: Calm down and enjoy the fast rebuilding job this man is performing.:cool: Aw what the hell. WE'RE GOING 14-0 BABY!!!:lol::rofl:
     
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  13. Junction

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    It's a tough schedule, true. But this year's wasn't a cakewalk...

    CSU on both schedules - I would expect them to be down a bit from last year - should be a somewhat easier game than 06.

    EWU vs. Miami (OH) - At best, EWU is an equal to a Miami team that contended in the MAC this year. While remembering Montana State :cry:, I say this trade reduces the SOS for 08.

    FSU (away) vs. FSU (home) - Change in location makes it tougher, but aside from that, I really don't see the Semenoles improving a lot as a team, especially given the assortment of suspensions, early entries, etc. they are facing. Call this tougher, but only by a hair.

    WVU (home) vs. ASU (away) - I'll call this a draw. WVU was much better than ASU this year, IMO. WVU will be down next year without RRod, Slaton and Reynaud, but that doesn't mean they'll suck.

    As far as the conference schedule goes, we substitute UT (home), aTm (road) and OSU (home) for OU (home), Tech (road) and Baylor (road) - Take those in order of difficulty and I think it gets easier 2 of 3 steps down the line. OU > UT, Tech > aTm. But OSU in Boulder > Baylor in Wacko... Add it all up and I'll say these three together are a little less daunting than the 3 south games from last year. But very little, almost a draw (mostly due to losing Bailer from the schedule...)

    The north? Mizzou, KU and the fuskers go from home to road games. ISU and KjSU come to Boulder. Basically, we lose home field against the two best teams in the north, plus the always heated post Turkey day game. This part definitely gets tougher than 2007. OTOH, I do think KU falls off a bit, as do the fuskers.

    All in all, the 08 schedule is tough, but it's a mix between pieces that are tougher than 07 and pieces that are easier. Considering the fact that CU should be better than in 07 by almost any way of evaluating them, I don't think it is unrealistic at all to think they can win 2 more games than in 07.... :huh:
     
  14. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    If things go badly, 6-6, if things go great, 8-4. FSU, WVU, UT, Mizzou are all very tough games. KU, aTm and NU will be challenging as well. CU should put the rest of the schedule away.
     
  15. BuffGuy91

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    **** all of you guys 14-0 with a mNC title!!!!
     
  16. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    My thought would be 7-5 but much will really depend on how the running game goes. Ok State and the Lamehawks could be wins if we can really develop a strong ground attack (one thing Barnett really did well). Scott greatly enhances the possibilities of this, but with Polk and Gates coming in we still have a chance to be very respectable on the ground.

    West Virginia still worries me more than FSU. Yeah Slaton declared but White is still in the backfield and Noel Devine isn't exactly chopped liver. Meanwhile I still haven't seen anyone under center for FSU that impresses me at all.

    I flip flop about our own QB situation. It seems Ballinger has more tools and may be the choice in the future but it would mean a second straight year of living through those freshman mistakes. At least with C Hawk we have already lived through that part and can hope it is past. Who knows maybe the forgotten man (Nick Nelson) will really assert himself and be the man at the seasons beginning.

    Anyway this is how I see it shaping up:

    Aug. 30 — Colorado State (Denver)-- W (No problemo)
    Sept. 6 — EASTERN WASHINGTON-- W (No problemo)
    Sept. 18 — WEST VIRGINIA-- L (Could be our worst loss of the season)
    Sept. 27 — Florida State (at Jacksonville)-- W (The Buffs can take these guys, they should have last season)
    Oct. 4 — TEXAS-- L (Too many horses and what a disappointment if Scott isn't in Black and Gold)
    Oct. 11 — at Kansas-- L (But another good game)
    Oct. . 18 — KANSAS STATE-- W (Tough game we'll be glad we walked away with a win unless this year we can control those big, mobile QB's.)
    Oct. 25 — at Missouri-- L (Better than last year by far)
    Nov. 1 — at Texas A & M-- W (Tough game because it's in College Station and could turn out to be one of the few high notes in A&M's mind)
    Nov. 8 — IOWA STATE-- W (REVENGE)
    Nov. 15 — OKLAHOMA STATE-- L (Lots of scoring)
    Nov. 28 — at Nebraska-- W (Buffs will roll!!!)
     
  17. sweaty teets

    sweaty teets Club Member Club Member

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    Is Surrency going to be playing for FSU? I know one player doesnt make a team but that guy looks like he would torch our young, inexperienced DBs.
     
  18. SJBuff

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    Mac went 1-10 is his 3rd season. With the loss of key leaders and performers on D from the '07 squad and the holes in our Dline, I'm prepared for us to take a small step back in '08 and go 5-7 or even 4-8 (ouch). We will still be a really young team next season and that schedule is pretty tough. If we are 2-4 when the kitties roll in to play us mid season (very possible) we could be looking at an 8 loss season with away games at Mizzou, ATM and the fuskers still left. I don't want to think it's possible but...

    My more optomistics side says if we bounce back from our key personnel losses and some of the young blood steps up I think 6-6 or 7-5 is realistic. But in '09...watch out! 10-2 or better!!!
     
  19. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    The reason we went 1-10 in Mac's third year was because the football team didn't even want to play. Seriously, they literally didn't care about football after Eddie Reinhardt went down. Trust me on this as this was right before my dad was president of the buff club snd he was really involved, the buffs main focus was Eddie.
     
  20. 77buff

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    Any more than 6 will be gravy, 2009 will be the year we win 8 games or more.
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  21. 87toInfinity

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    haha gross. but funny. :thumbsup:
     
  22. Coloradosker

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    Serious question: About half the posts here seem to think that NU will be easy pickins because they claim the team will have a down year. I'm curious as to why they think this is? We return 85% of the offense that put 50+ on CU and a lot of experience on d with a coach who knows his s**t when it comes to defense. Add to it that the game is in Lincoln and it looks like a toss up to me.
     
  23. Unleash Hell

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    I don't think it's an easy win, I think it's a toss up, but I have a lot of confidence in the buffs in that one. NU also has a lot of questions. Hell no one even knows how Bo Puppet will fare as a HC. Fusker fans are sounding very similar to what they were saying the day Cally got hired, don't learn?:huh:
     
  24. Coloradosker

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    I can agree with that. A lot of people are thinking that we have a savior for our program. I don't buy it. What I do know though, is that he will have this team playing with passion and intensity that we haven't seen for many years. That's a step in the right direction. Whether it translates into wins or not is a whole nother matter.
     
  25. MiamiBuffs

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    Ouch! Well. There will be some good games to watch next year.
     
  26. BuffsIn2008

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    That's a killer schedule, boys. Six wins would constitute improvement over 2007, seven wins would be outstanding and eight would prove miracles didn't end in the first century.

    6-6, and then a bowl game victory in 2008.
     
  27. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    I think you need to check the "expectations" again. If CU wins the national championship, Hawkins will earn, with incentives and everything, almost $1.7 million. As it was this season, Hawkins got ONE of the incentives in his contract - a non-BCS bowl - which entitled him to an extra $50,000. That means for the season that just ended he earned $950,000. (Of course, if he was able to successfully secure the "academic" and "behavior" clauses of his contract, he would have made another $200,000.) Does that sound like the pay a program pays when it expects its coach to win 2/3 of its games?

    This definitely isn't Oklahoma, or Nebraska, or Texas or even Texas A&M. This isn't Oklahoma State, or Texas Tech, or even Missouri or Kansas or Kansas State. This is Colorado. And while football is certainly king in Colorado (as opposed to basketball in Kansas) the crown at Colorado is tiny. That is what makes what McCartney did in the early 1990's so incredibly special.

    Colorado is not a 10-win program anymore. Maybe it will be, one of these days. But right now, it's a good, tough, 6-win or 7-win team. I suspect it's more likely that in the future, the 10+-win seasons will be the rarity, and the 6+-loss seasons will be the norm.

    As a result- I think you are setting yourself up for a huge disappointment if you EXPECT the Buffs to win 8 games with this schedule. With this team, and this schedule, the wins just aren't there.
     
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    Nebraska will certainly be favored in the game.
     
  29. Sexton Hardcastle

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    With fans like the LT. its easy to see why we can't fill up our stadium.
     
  30. RalphieMalph

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    I'll agree that WVU was much better than ASU by the end of the season, but the team that lined up against Texas in the Holiday Bowl was a shadow of the squad that the Buffs played against in September.

    When you're talking about taking on a WVU team with a new and unproven head coach, in moderate weather, who's going to be operating without key starters from last season (including that psychopathic mohawk guy)... I mean, I see that as a far less daunting task than taking on Dennis Erickson, Rudy Carpenter, and a healthy Torain (their offense was far more dynamic with him in the backfield) in 105+ degree heat. Just IMO fodder, but I honestly don't believe the Buffs would win a single game against that ASU team in those elements if we played them 30 times over. With WVU, I think we'd take about 40 or 50% of the contests.
     

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