Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Bone Buff, Apr 4, 2013.
Would've been a disaster in McKale(and other P12 arenas) next season.
Probably wanted to spend more time with his family.
New head of officiating in the WNBA.
Saved by the Fems!
Tad said it best after the Arizona game at the keg; Don't Rush the court.
(Deal with it, daaah)
What's the rush?
What do you call a chinese alcoholic? a rush.
Double post oops
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you forgot to mention a bunch of people...bastard
I see what you did there. you just hit up the junta. allow me to edit my post.
you forgot to mention a bunch of people....brown noser
I knew this was going to happen... everyone I forgot just rep me and I will rep you back. lot:
Let me say I am an Arizona fan and I thought the call was incorrect the first time we played. This was posted over at goazcats.com by a poster whose wife works or a news station.
I'm the biggest BS'er ever. Right, Salty?
I was away from a computer when I heard the news before it broke. So here we go.
The wife got a tip at 4:30 yesterday, as she is a news writer in Seattle. She passed it onto a sports reporter, who had a lengthy recorded conversation, which my wife was in on this conversation. (Standard operating protocol to protect her station.) This was going to be used on Sunday, but they're not sure they're going to run the story.
Tad Boyle was public enemy numero uno, in Rush's eyes. As far as everyone knows, Arizona "beat" Colorado. That wasn't the case. Rush turned the call in Arizona's favor. Then, after Miller made his comment post-ASU, Rush had turned his sights on Sean Miller.
The source also said that Rush had "violent outbursts," when officials didn't "fall in line" with his directives. Monty apparently wasn't punished to the level that Rush wanted in multiple games and my wife's source bore the brunt of direct verbal abuse.
Goodman's source came to my wife's source, verifying everything that he told Goodman again. Another ref came to my wife's source, backing up the same thing. No one in that room thought he was joking.
The person that rang Miller volunteered to do it, because Rush could "rely on him." The evidence is out there why. I don't expect you'll see that man on a Pac-12 court next season.
It's funny that Tim Donaghy's name keeps being brought up, because there was a moment that Rush threatened one of the refs that spoke to wife's source that said, "(Rush) said that he could 'make me the next Donaghy' if I didn't fall in line." This was a direct quote from Rush to a ref that talked to my wife's source.
That's the brunt of what I heard that was on the record. The source said, "Rush will be gone tomorrow. If he resigns, it's because (Ref 1) and (Ref 2) confronted Larry Scott to blow the lid on the whole thing, forcing a resignation."
Today, the wife just talked to the source, who has had a conversation with another ref since last night's lengthy interview. Scott never asked one question to anyone. He took Rush's word at face value. It is now my wife's source's opinion that Scott had no intention of an in-depth investigation and has change his viewpoint and feels that Larry Scott must go. The other two refs would not confirm nor deny that Scott ignored them in the investigation. Once this third ref recently talked to wife's source, the other two confirmed Scott did not speak with them.
- There's a general feeling that this was going to go away, based on the mood around the conference offices that "basketball didn't matter that much." Oops. This is why the refs didn't want to come forward, naming themselves as whistleblowers. (No pun intended.)
- There's a feeling among the refs now that Donaghy might have been a scapegoat, back during the "NBA officiating scandal." The things that were said have caused the officials to put "two and two together."
- Rush wasn't vetted.
- The refs weren't going to let this go. Once Goodman broke the story and the conference tried to make it go away (with the help of Mike Rice and Auburburn), they were going to go back at it after the Final Four to make sure that real change came about.
- The refs have no problem being scrutinized heavily. As long as they have a job next season, they'll be happy with any type of review, whether it be from inside the conference or an outside, independent panel. They want to make sure this never happens again and that no one will ever expect "they are on the take." (Their words. Read into that how you'd like.)
Well, this made things a bit more interesting.
I am not quite ready to crucify Scott just yet. Where was Kevin Weiberg during all this?
Can anyone fathom why Ed Rush would have it in for Tad?
Not sure which curse word to type. Kanybl's "facts" all seem relatively reliable. If they are, I guess I'll finish processing this tomorrow.
[EDIT] If only 50% of this is true, Scott has got to be out. For cause. [EDIT]
Always take an internet post with a bunch of sources with caution...
Even before reading that post by the Zona fan, this whole thing just pisses me off. Scott couldn't even fire the ****ing guy. What's more, Scott was the guy who HIRED Rush. What does that say about Scott? People seem to think Scott is good with numbers and expanding revenue...can he be trusted with ensuring the longterm stability of the athletic aspect of the conference?
Well, this just escalated
I really don't want to see Scott fired over this. I think he's shown a lack of judgement and leadership, but eventually it worked out. Lets not throw out the baby with the bath water here. Again, where was Kevin Weiberg in all of this mess?
collecting a really big paycheck?
This is some BS!!! Scott has made the crucial mistake of not bringing down the hammer. Though Scott may have pushed Rush into a kind resignation, Scott hasn't shown he has the balls to make the tough decisions! Starting from the CU ripoff in AZ, to an ill advised Technical/Fine against Miller, to not bringing the hammer down on Rush.
The integrity of the game is largely monitored by the officials that referree the game, is this not important to Scott? Something don't smell right about this whole thing.
WTF is wrong with Rush, what an idiot!!!
It would appear so, yes.
I can see a scenario where Scott felt like this issue should have been handled by somebody else, and basically ignored it as a result. I don't think Scott wants to deal with stuff like this. He wants to deal with big picture issues. This definitely caught him off guard.
If I was weinberg, I would be pretty scared right now. unhappy boss about something in my job title.
--Kanybl's post is accurate.
--The media become frenzied and produce the compiled video evidence that CU received bad calls (all teams are on the receiving end of bad calls--you could make that compliation for any of them, but the incentive would be to produce one for CU in particular).
--More refs come forward with their stories of intimidation and unfair calls.
--Colorado will benefit through public good will and recruiting because Tad--as public enemy number one--will have stood up to the face of evil (in appearance, at least)
--The Buffs will never be on the wrong side of a bad call in conference play again!
I think we should back off the "Scott needs to go nonsense". While I find it interesting that pretty much every single fan, for any team who read the Rush story immediately knew that for the credibility of the league Rush needed to be fired immediately and Larry Scott somehow did not, his strategic vision still remains too valuable for the long term viability of the brand. Bebe anyone?
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