Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by NashBuff, Sep 2, 2011.
It'd be nice if he beats CSewe.
good for him.
CSU loses to UNC hilarity ensues.
It would be sweet if a former walk-on QB for the Buffs leads the Bears to a win over the Rams! :thumbsup:
Good luck to Seth!
Stupid Hawkins - a 6'5" Safety? WTF! Oh yeah, didn't want competition for precious Cody.
Without a doubt. :lol:
"Former CU walk on safety throws for 300 yards in leading UNC to victory over the hapless Rams"
I may have to use that as a blog title. :smile2:
Hawk think, he had a secret plan that would allow him to line up all the mental waves, imagine victory in the clouds, and win 10 games a year, but only if he had a quarterback who was shorter the 5'10".
Congrats Seth. go get em
Good luck Seth...
I wasn't sure where else to put this but apparently Lobato is getting some attention from the Pats. It's good to see that he's been able to achieve some success in spite of everything.
Can't be. Dan Hawkins wanted him to be a safety.
Of course given a choice of a 5'10" kid with a weak arm and a 6'6" kid with a strong arm Hawkins much preferred the first option, who also called him dad.
I don't know how good Lobato could have been at CU but the fact that NFL teams are taking time to talk with him says something.
He is better than Cody.
Let's not pretend that he was wildly successful at UNC. 16 TDs and 13 Ints from a Senior at the FCS level isn't going to cut it.
No he wasn't wildly successful, neither was Cody. UNC also had a pathetic supporting cast around him and a defense that couldn't stop a pee-wee team. He was a walk-on from a small school who had no BCS level offers out of HS.
Point is though that it is easy to make an argument that almost any other coach in the situation that CU was in would have kept him at QB and tried to develop him. Hawkins did everything he could to make sure that no one and nothing stood in the way of his boy being the star QB for the Buffs.
Cody was pretty good at leapfrog and mugging for the camera while we were being destroyed by Toledo on national tv.
No ****. I have trouble thinking of a QB on the Buff roster 05-10 who wasn't...
As was Brian White (and probably the tall kid from Idaho). The Hawkins (both of them) regime was football malpractice and fraud on an extreme level. I wish both of them the ultimate depths of failure and misery.
A senior QB at the FBS or FCS level who is in the top third of his peers in height and arm strength is going to get a call from an NFL team looking to work him out and consider going the UFA route. It will be good to see how he projects with an NFL line and receivers teaming with him, something Seth has never had. Good luck to him.
Because Big Sky = Big 12
There's a big difference between playing in the Big 12 against teams like NU, Mizzou, Texas, OU, OSU, etc. versus playing Montana, Montana State, Weber State, etc. I get UNC doesn't have a lot of talent, but did we have a ton of offensive talent compared to other teams in the Big 12? I also get that Hawkins favored Cody, but Seth was a walkon, not a scholarship player. I'm not saying walk ons have no shot or should be ignored completely, but I'd rather have a coach focus on the scholarship QBs. The thought that he would have been this good QB in the Big 12 is laughable. People getting worked up over a walk on transfering and having moderate success at a FCS school is weird.
I'd rather have a coach focus on the best player, regardless of scholarship status. If the better player believed in his talent enough to walk-on, let him play if he's truly better.
Nobody is saying that Seth is the hidden Manning Brother. What is obvious though is that Hawkins had no interest in giving him a fair look.
The simple fact is that Cody wasn't good enough, sorry to break it to you but he wasn't a major conference starting quality QB. Lobato may never have been that either, we don't know.
What we do know is that he never had a chance to find out at CU because Hawkins had already made up his mind who was going to play. And AJ is 100% right, once the helmets go on you do what makes your "team" best regardless of the name on the jersey or who was recruited by who. If not you end up fired, unfortunately at least a year later than you should have been.
And the Big Sky isn't the Big XII but there have been plenty of Big Sky players who Big XII teams in hindsight would have loved to have had. I guess that Vincent Jackson wouldn't have helped a few Big XII teams, after all he was a barely recruited guy in the Big Sky conference. If he had walked on to CU should Hawkins have kept him on the bench as well?
And who is going to be the better player in all likelihood? The scholarship player or the walk on? I just think it's silly to worry so much about a walk on. Debate the Hansen/Cody issues, but a walk on/Cody debate? If Hawkins focused on the best player it would have been Hansen, and I'd bet Lobato would be #3. A QB needs more than height and a good arm to succeed in college, and we saw that with Wood. He had everything you could want in terms of physical tools but didn't have it mentally.
Vincent Jackson balled at UNC, Lobato did not...ignoring the fact that Jackson was tiny out of HS and that's why he went unnoticed, Lobato was 6'6" 210 according to his Rivals profile.
Meh, I wish him luck, but talk to me when he's a factor in the NFL. Tyler Hansen started over Lobato too, is anyone upset about that? Hansen even had a cup if coffee with the Bengals.
Tyler should have either started ahead of Cody or redshirted, all part of the same issue.
If he is good enough to get the attention of NFL scouts even if he never gets drafted or even ends up going to a camp it would indicate that he probably should have at least gotten a chance to show what he could do here. He may have been the second or third string guy but the real question is would have have made the team better.
My issue is that Hawkins had him here for free and never gave him that chance.
Getting a sniff in the NFL doesn't mean he necessarily should have been playing as a 19 year old sophomore walk on. He was an average FCS QB, that doesn't scream big miss to me regardless how you feel about how the QB situation was handled here.
Tens of thousands of players draw interest, that doesn't always mean much about the player.
Have never seen someone care so much about a walk on who was very average at a lower level
Hey this means I played with an NFL player
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