Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by DBT, Apr 6, 2016.
I know that this is stupid sports talk fodder, but as of right now I would put him as the greatest men's/women's college basketball coach of all time. John Wooden achieved very impressive, but similar feats to Geno, but he did it in an era when it was easier to stockpile talent.
I think it's too hard to say he's the greatest coach of all time. There have been coaches in all sports who have achieved some truly remarkable things.
Anyone who wins as much as he has for as long as he has while being absolutely dominant much of the time... is definitely in the conversation. I think these are apples to oranges comparisons because the situations in different sports are so different, but CJ's opinion is fair. I don't believe any coach has been as dominant in his/her sport as Geno has in his.
Or, is Women's basketball now at the level that men's was in the 70s?
I hate the guy. But you can't deny what he's accomplished. Not really concerned how much talent is around, he got it all to come to UConn, and they are just so much better than everyone else you have to give him credit.
Also, it really needs to be "couldn't care less". Pet peeve.
I limited it to greatest women's coach. I see similarities between Geno and Wooden. Both built "go to" programs for their era. All the best wanted to go to their school. Everybody else was an "also ran". Someday the same balance that exists in mens will find its way to the women's game. But for now UConn is the dominant team like UCLA was in their era. Kind of boring unless you were actually a fan of one of those two schools.
Wow... I just realized that UCONN under Auriema has made 16 Final Fours- in 30 seasons. Think about that- he's made the Final Four more often than not over three decades. Not even Wooden (12 Final Fours in 27 seasons) did that.
The greater number of scholarships in women's basketball allows teams to stockpile better talent, thus keeping it from competition. Combine this with the lower numbers in the talent pool (124,000 girls per class vs 152,000 boys) and you have a situation where one team can become dominant simply by locking up the top talent each year. Reduce the number of scholarships available to restore the competitive balance between schools. There is no reason women's basketball should have 15 vs 13 for the men. Those other 2 scholarships could be reallocated to other sports in order to address Title IX concerns.
Under Pat Summit, Tennessee made 18 Final Fours. She won 8 NCAA championships. She was doing it in the days before Title IX. She would still be coach if it wasn't for early onset Ahlzheimer's. For me, because she did more with less financial backing, I see her as the best coach on the women's side. Not that I liked her any better than I like Geno.
I didn't like the stare and I didn't like her whining when Tennessee didn't get the seeding she thought it deserved in the tournament. I didn't like her players whining about never winning a national championship once Geno came on the scene.
Geno is the coach all players aspire to play for. He's got a full team of All American's. If he doesn't win the National Championship, he should be fired!
The conference UConn plays in, the American Athletic Conference, is not strong in women's basketball. This season, they played and beat Notre Dame, Maryland and South Carolina. Like Tennessee, they never really have to travel during the tourney. That is definitely an advantage in winning. Fresh legs help a lot even with the talent.
I find their games boring because they are not competitive. I did watch some of the South Carolina game during the regular season--until it became boring.
The only boring games I will watch are Colorado's.
More importantly, I believe, is that WBB players are there for 4 years and don't transfer at the same rate when a high level recruit doesn't get to showcase that talent with a lot of minutes as a freshman. Geno built a machine in a way that is impossible in MBB. That's why I said that it is apples to oranges. Compare that to an NBA HC job and the job descriptions get even further apart. Comparisons may be fun for fans and sports media, but they're pretty much meaningless.
I give him credit for building the program, but now, isn't it sort of "self sustaining?" My son asked, "If he's such a great coach, why doesn't he give men's basketball a shot?" If he did, I think he'd be average.
Good job with that girls basketball thing mane.
Why do you hate Geno, just out of curiosity?
I could care less but choose not to.
a) because he wins all the damn time. Nobody likes that guy. b) I've always just thought he seemed kind of slimy. I got mad respect for his press conferences though. He DGAF about the haters, and it's pretty sweet.
It's apples to oranges. Greatest women's coach. The depth/parity simply is not the same. He's not John Wooden, and Wooden isn't Geno
I like Geno a lot better than the now former La Tech women's basketball coach, Tyler Summit. He is the son of the legendary Pat Summit, who if she has an idea of what her son has done, is ready to read him the riot act like she used to do to her players. Tyler Summit had to step down today as the coach of La Tech because of an inappropriate relationship with a player. Not cool.
Tyler would never have been given a head coaching job at age 23. He is now 25. Rumors are the player is pregnant. At least we, at Colorado, didn't have that going on in our women's basketball program.
Whoa there. I hadn't kept up with how he'd been doing since the initial hire. That is bad stuff. Pokey Chatman level stuff. Plus a pregnancy, if true, is nasty.
Twitterverse says the player is Brooklyn Pumroy
I think that the Chinese olympic ping pong coach has had more success and is thus the greatest coach of all time.
Who would have thought that having a 25 year old male, coaching a bunch of 18-22 year old females would have been a problem? Plus, Tyler Summit is creepy looking, AF!
Swim coach at Regis HS. They won something like 9 straight state championships and were the highest rated team in the nation for much of that time.
What Geno has done is amazing. part of it is that he has had so much success that the best recruits almost recruit him. Just doesn't make sense to try to compare things that are distinctly different.
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