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George Solich letter to Buff Nation.

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  1. Tatanka™

    Tatanka™ Well-Known Member

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    http://www.denverpost.com/cu/ci_23370875/letter-from-cu-booster-george-solich-buff-nation

     
  2. SuperiorBuff

    SuperiorBuff Well-Known Member

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    ****. I hate Phil.
     
  3. HUFset

    HUFset Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you are alone.
     
  4. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

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    Whoops.
     
  5. cubuffs85

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    While I don't like the timing of this at all, and if I were going to fire him I would've done it mid-October similar to when Nebraska did there's or mid-November like when CSU's did there's. I don't think this is completely without merit. Things change. They probably didn't expect the press conference fiasco, head coaching search mangled (I'm not saying MacInytre is going to be bad but let's be honest he wasn't exactly close to their top choice), and a lack of fundraising for the Folsom/football project. The longer this went on the worst it would've looked, so sometimes you just have to cut your losses. Personally, I would've likely given Bohn another two years to get things right and see how Mac2 was doing. It's just a very complex decision.
     
  6. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I'm not going to get into the other stuff in your post, but this caught my eye. From most accounts, MM was our second choice. That's pretty close to being the top choice.


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  7. cubuffs85

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    I find that very hard to believe given how long it took. Butch Jones wasn't even seen as a great fit to many. Even if he was the second choice, the fact we had to settle for him shows how far CU football has fallen. Again, let me say again, it may work out. It doesn't change the search process however. Hawkins look good when he was hired, so did Embree, most do. They all win their pressers for the most part.
     
  8. sackman

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    The Embree hire was nearly universally criticized by everybody outside of Boulder. I can't remember one publication that considered that a good hire.


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  9. SuperiorBuff

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    Nobody that follows college football thought the Embry hire was a good hire. Every coaching hire evaluation I saw listed it as a solid "F."
     
  10. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Not even the B4L newsletter?
     
  11. Creebuzz

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    Even if he never donates a penny more to CU, Solich should be praised for this letter. He's used his bully pulpit perfectly. He effectively called out Benson and DiStefano publicly, questioned their commitment to athletics (i.e. "as long as there is a PLAN"), and made it known that he is not meddling or behind the firing.

    In other words, he told Benson and DiStefano to get their act together and fix this dumpster fire. :congrats:
     
  12. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Solich did put together a great letter. He clearly wasn't going to allow the dynamic duo of duds lay off the blame on anything he did. Bravo.
     
  13. cubuffs85

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    That's revisionist history, many had it as C's and D's. It wasn't exactly considered the worst hire of all-time.
     
  14. cubuffs85

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    I'm talking more locally here. I'm sure if Mac2 doesn't work out, we'll hear a lot of hindsight criticism on that hire as well. I think it was a good hire, given everything, but I don't see this as a "home run."
     
  15. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    Dr. Phil may have decided to do the firing in December but it takes him six month to figure out how to pull his head out of his turd portal.
     
  16. Junction

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    There is no comparison between the Embree hire and the NuMac hire. Not between the coaches we hired, not between the way the searches were conducted (well, at least the one time there was an actual search), not in the external influences at work, not in the evaluation of the hires, there's just no comparison.
     
  17. BuffClass90

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    And I like this guy Coach Mac way more than I think I'd like Food Cart Jones.
     
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    On paper Hawk looked like the best out of the three, Mac2 clear #2, and Embree a distant third.
     
  19. cubuffs85

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    That was one of the more hillarious moments in CU history.
     
  20. SuperiorBuff

    SuperiorBuff Well-Known Member

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    No it's not. I didn't read a single review above an F. Several reviews listed it as the worst head coaching hire of the year.
     
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    Can you provide a link to any non-CU affiliated website that said it was a "C" or a "D"?
     
  22. wsp4820

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    Mandel from SI gave it a D! So, we had that going for us, which was nice.
     
  23. BuffClass90

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    For once these sites predicted correctly.
     
  24. cubuffs85

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    Provided one with each actually above
     
  26. cubuffs85

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    Now can you put the links up with the "worst head coaching hire of the year?"
     
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    I remember Athlon's or Lindy's...I forget which one, had Embo as the worst D1 hire that year. But in the end, does it matter? Embo: good guy, great Buff, unsuccessful HC. Let's move on.
     
  29. SuperiorBuff

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    That was clearly wrong, that's all I was getting at. No need to curse because you were off-base on this one.
     

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