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Greg Brown as DC: 843 points over 21 games!!!

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by 89BuffsBest, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. 89BuffsBest

    89BuffsBest New Member

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    No, that's not a typo, 843 points (!) in the 21 games with Greg Brown as Defensive Coordinator. That's 40 points per game for almost 2 full seasons. Absolutely incredible. I haven't done the research, but this has to be one of the most inept stretches for any defense in the history of college football, and it is entirely the fault of the Defensive Coordinator. They need to fire him now and install Cabral as the interim DC for the rest of the season, with a chance to keep the job if we somehow show serious improvement.
     
  2. EddieCrowder

    EddieCrowder Club Member Club Member

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    I have been saying this since the Sad Sac St loss. Let's clear this up, he is co-DC at Zona and they could not stop a high calibur HS team. So we hire and promote him to sole DC ? Can someone explain to me the logic involved in that decision ?
     
  3. BuffUp

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    He is an old buff...that is all that matters to this staff and the CU uppers
     
  4. 89BuffsBest

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    I say we see if we can get Mike Hankwitz to come back. He's got oodles of experience as a DC with lots of success and it gives a tie back to our glory days / keeps it sort of in-family. He currently is the DC at Northwestern (with a 7-2 record and relatively stout defense), and was our DC at CU from 85 - 94, and again in 04-05. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hankwitz
     
  5. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    He's the defensive coordinator at Northwestern.
     
  6. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

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    And he really wanted to be our head coach following the Klatt bowl, and he was spurned by CU. He's got no love for the Buffs, I wouldn't imagine.
     
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    When in doubt, look to the past...
     
  8. 89BuffsBest

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    Really, you don't say? :)
     
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    Well, Barnett is now showing his face at CU functions again, and if anyone had reason to feel burned, it was him. Realistically, Hankwitz has little reason to feel bitter. Hawkins looked like a home run hire at the time, and the administration politically had to clean house after the recruiting scandal. Won't know for sure unless we ask.
     
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    Department of Redundancy Department.
     
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    I think we need a big name coach (like Leech or Rodriguez) to help immediately with recruiting. I'd be for Hank, except I think CU needs to get past it's past a bit...IMO...keep some of it, but no more boring stories of glory days...
     
  12. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

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    Anybody can feel burned, and it's more likely to be personal at the, you know, personal level. Did GB get burned? Well, a lackluster finish (Texas beat us worse than Oregon did) to the 2005 season, the PR misteps, and the national image that our program was out of control conspired against him. He had some culpability in all of that.

    I consure that Hawkins was seen as a homerun, and as a fanbase, we had so much confidence in our place in the college football landscape, that we could not foresee what happened next, or even imagined the depths to which we'd sink.

    But I'd imagine, if I were in Hank's situation--a cornerstone of a successful CU program over the years, and interim HC--that I'd feel somewhat spurned when CU looked elsewhere.
     
  13. 89BuffsBest

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    Remember, we're talking defensive coordinators, not head coaches. Hankwitz is a big-time, big-name DC. He would be a terrific hire, if he were interested.
     
  14. Jaximus

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    Nuke the defense. Can't get any worse. Take the entire defense over to the nearest pop warner field where those coaches can teach them tackling techniques. Believe it or not, reaching for the runners arms and shoulders as they run by you is not the best method!
     
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    Yeah, we need to bring in someone from the Fred Folsom era.
     
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    Hankwitz had some good times, but he was also the DC during the 70-3 incident..

    He'd be a huge upgrade to Brown, but then again, so would anyone with a pulse.
     
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    To those poking fun at looking back to the past, here is the basis for my suggestion: 1) it would be hard to find someone with a better resume than Hankwitz, and 2) he might want / be willing to come back.
    In support of claim #1, in addition to being DC for our National Championship team, he has been DC for great defenses at Kansas, Texas A&M, Arizona, Wisconsin, and now Northwestern. That's right, 24 years being a full-fledged DC. That addresses all the folks here griping about lack of experience in the position being hired for.
    In support of claim #2, he spent 12 years in Boulder and had a lot of success here. Given that, I'm guessing he may have a soft spot for this program. It is hard to spend a decade in Boulder and not think about returning, especially from Chicago. Boulder would certainly be a better place to retire. Also, odds are he is not making a mint at Northwestern, so we might be able to compete salary-wise. Also, other than the 10 year stint at CU, he has bounced around a bit, so it doesn't appear he has massive loyalty to one program.
    So, I would really be interested in hearing someone else make a reasonable suggestion for a new defensive coordinator, with your reasons. Fire away...
     
  18. Walter White

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    Watching KSU play D is satisfying. Wrap up every time. Very few yards after catch. Lots of gang tackles. Don't make stupid mistakes that lead to big plays. Make the other team do someting really special to beat you. No unforced errors, just like in tennis.

    They just seem so solid and stable.
     
  19. BuffUp

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    reading the thread title again... anyone else in a real job would be fired...If you went in for your review/evaluation and those #'s laid out in front of you, You could totally understand being terminated
     
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    All right, Tom Hayes. Reasonable suggestion.

    We need someone with the attitude that situations like this are opportunities with a huge upside and almost no downside.
     

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