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Grey Shirt

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by pcbuff, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. pcbuff

    pcbuff Well-Known Member

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    Our Grey Shirt offer has me reading NCAA rules. By my read, the kid can enroll in the university if they aren't on scholarship, and don't practice with the team. Can anyone confirm? Can he meet with team nutritionist without violating rules?
    Also, does anyone know if the new lineman is partnered with a formal training program?
    Thanks in advance. I find the NCAA rules very vague, and conflicting interpretations on the web.
     
  2. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Formal training with Matt McChesney.
     
  3. pcbuff

    pcbuff Well-Known Member

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    That's what I wanted to hear!
     
  4. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    Is it "grey" or "gray?" We are talking about a colour, correct?
     
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    zbuff Club Member Club Member

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    My Crayons say gray, so I don't know where you guys get grey.
     
  6. Highlander

    Highlander Club Member Club Member

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    http://grammarist.com/spelling/gray-grey/
     
  7. hokiehead

    hokiehead Gobbler on the Mountain Club Member

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    Gramburglar Literally has hundreds of dollars Club Member

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    which football?
     
  9. hokiehead

    hokiehead Gobbler on the Mountain Club Member

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    college. grammar lessons have no place in NFL discussions.
     
  10. BehindEnemyLines

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    "Gray and grey are different spellings of the same word, and both are used throughout the English-speaking world. Butgray is more common in American English, while grey is more common in all the other main varieties of English. In the U.K., for instance, grey appears about twenty times for every instance of gray. In the U.S. the ratio is reversed"



    Where is butgray on the color scale?
     
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  11. Gramburglar

    Gramburglar Literally has hundreds of dollars Club Member

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    ok I was being a little more general with the term through. And yes a league that has Nick Fairly is a league that has no time for grammar.
     
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    bombay Club Member Club Member

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    There used to be two words for volume (loud) or volumn (quantity). I found out the 2nd term is considered obsolete.
     
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  13. pcbuff

    pcbuff Well-Known Member

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    Nerds, this is s football board for guys that wake up at 3:00 a.m. and read NCAA regulations. It not a place for a conversation on the proper spelling of grey, volume, or the application of the term football by Euro trash!
     
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    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    That is so grey
     
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    If a student enrolls in a 4-year university full time, regardless of who is paying and regardless of whether he participates in sports, his ncaa "five to play four" clock is starting. It does not start when he "joins the team."
    Typically a "gray shirt" candidate does not enroll in a 4-year university full time, so the individual's clock doesn't start. He or she may attend classes at a community college (and pay for it). Here's one note "Basically a grayshirt is when an athlete delays his enrollment at his future college so that his eligibility clock will not start ticking until he arrives on campus during the second semester of the year."
    A gray shirt candidate may not receive any benefits, such as meeting with team nutritionist, attending practices, working out in the athletic facility. A gray shirt usually has an agreement with the 4-year university that he will enroll the following year. This can be to time the athlete's entrance when it is most beneficial to the team and the athlete (too many in his position now, but a gap coming in the following year), or to allow recovery from a high school injury, or to get some academic experience if needed. "Gray shirt" is really just a fancy way of saying the team and the individual have mutually agreed to delay entrance to school and participation in team activities.
     
  17. FightCu1414

    FightCu1414 Fifth year Senior Club Member

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    Lots of grayshirts enroll in the spring semester. They work out at six zero in the fall then practice with the team in the spring. That is what Lisella did at least.
     
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    goalline Jedi Master Club Member

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    Mods: please change thread title to "50 shades of grey shirt: Grammatical implications on post-modern collegiate athletic eligibility and subsequent performance."
     
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    Yes, and once you enroll in the university, your eligibility clock starts. You can enroll in January, or June or whenever. For a fall sport, it doesn't matter when, only that you enrolled before the start of your season. So a gray shirt could have enrolled in Fall of 2015, but delayed and waited until Jan of 2016. He can fully participate in his chosen sport once he's enrolled, but could not participate during the fall.
     
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    pcbuff Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I was trying to come up with a way to game the system by allowing a kid to enroll at his expense in a couple classes to keep them tied to the university while still not starting the clock. Sounds like 5 for 4 prevents this.

    McChesney's program really is a windfall for CU. Next best thing to a JC program in the same town.
     
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    That subject has always been a little grey to me.
     
  22. Shldr2Shldr

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    grEy = England
    grAy = America
     
  23. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    Both = DBT

    A GS can do the same things that a HS prospect can do. They can attend practices that are open but not participate. They can have "informal" conversations with coaches and staffers but not recieve formal services.

    McChesney is a huge bonus because he can convert a casual suggestion from a coach into a quality structured program. For example if an assistant were to make a comment like "We'd like to see you have a stronger base and be stronger on your punch in pass blocking, Matt knows what they are asking for and how to build it.

    I don't know if it is a false impression or just luck but it also seems like the kids who have been through his program don't have a high injury rate once they get on campus. This could be lucky or it could mean that he is building real strength and flexibility without overstressing kids bodies.
     
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    Don't be mean. They were borne that whey.
     

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