Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Duff Man, Oct 31, 2013.
35-7 late second quarter. Todd Graham getting the "sportsmanlike" game plan ready for the second half.
After watching the ASU vs. WSU game last night I feel a lot better about our BUFFS. Looking at their stadium, fan base and players on the team at WSU this is going to be a race from the bottom of the Pac12 IMO. The race is between Cal, CU, WSU and Utah (the win against Stanford helped).
ASU throttled WSU and it could have been way worse.
I think we would beat WSU if we played this year. Mostly because of the pirate. Our schedule rotation has seemed much rougher than Utah's to begin the Pac-12 era. We get Oregon for something like 8 straight years and Stanford 6 of 8 years.
ASU is annoyingly talented, and Kelly is the real deal. Friggin' 3 star kid out of Idaho, offers only from ASU and Nevada. Really disappointed at WSU's showing and crowd, they are fighting for a bowl spot, but blown out in 3 of their last 4.
WSU would beat us this year. They only lost on a Pirate-induced choke last year. Yes, they've gotten smoked in 4 of their last 5, but by 4 very good teams. Nearly beat a pretty good Auburn team early. They have way more team speed than us, and they crushed Cal, a team we will struggle to beat IMO. We'd love to have Halliday as our QB. Sure, he makes mistakes, but he's fearless, makes things happen and has a stronger arm than any QB we've had since Detmer. And if you saw last night, they're close to finished with their new high-tech football ops center overlooking the stadium. So they're way ahead in the facilities race, as well.
Halliday is not good. He is pretty fearless about throwing INTs.
When you throw it 53+ times/game, you're gonna have some picks. Especially behind that awful line, and the defense knowing exactly what you're going to do 99% of the time you line up.
I'm not a Halliday fan, or even saying he's "good", but based on his demonstrated sample size, he's a legit Pac-12 QB. Hard to argue against that. Can we say the same for our guys?
He has thrown 18 INTs on the season. That is Cody Hawkins territory.
He is ranked exactly one spot ahead of Connor Wood in the conference for passing efficiency. 10th in the conference and the guy in 11th got benched. If that makes him "legit" in your eyes, I find that pretty odd.
He's got some nice touch on certain throws, but yes, he's a mess right now.
If he played CU, he would throw for 400 yards and 5 TDs and run for another 120.
Yeah, except Cody didn't average 53 passes/game.
And guys who chuck it that much don't usually lead the conference in efficiency. Mannion is a rare exception; he's having an insane year.
If he throws so much and is as good as you say shouldn't he have more than 20 touchdown tosses?
Other than making a lot of mistakes, being very inefficient (6.4 YPA), and guiding the 9th best scoring offense in the PAC-12, Halliday is pretty good.
Nothing there that playing the Buffs can't cure.
Never said he was good. I said he was "legit" and better than what we have (partly because we're not sure what we have yet) ...
The hell is the difference between legit and good to you? If someone says someone is legit they usually mean they think the player is good.
You're right. Probably semantics. By "legit", I mean Halliday belongs in the Pac-12, he's capable, maybe even above average. He's proven that he can be successful in this league, albeit very inconsistent. I look at him (and here in WA, I've seen him a lot the last 3 years) and think, if he had the line and even a serviceable running game in front of him, he'd be "good." He'll win more games for you than lose them ....with a better team around him.
Yet to be seen if Sefo fits that description. I hope so. But if we were playing fantasy football, and you offered me Halliday for Sefo, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Known vs. unknown.
Good game right now with USC and Oregon State. SC jumped out to a 14 point lead, Oregon State came back and tied it.
SC then mounted a solid drive running the ball to score another TD. Don't know their future but this is a better SC team under Ogeron. Under Kiffen to have a team come back on them from 2 tds down SC would have folded like a napkin.
Mater Dei vs St John Bosco starting in 3 minutes!
Strange decision by USC to just run out the clock at the end of the first half.
USC wins 31-14 in Corvallis. Those players seem to respond to Orgeron in a big way.
Well, for those of you who thought we would beat $C....
There's still the chance of a massive snowstorm.
Lee is terrific.
I think Purdue = CU 2012
God the Big 10 is boring to watch.
Army/ AFA and Iowa/Wisconsin are the most interesting games on right now. Not a great slate of games today.
But at least the Buffs are off Pac-12 Network tonight. :woot:
Watch ncst vs unc
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