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Discussion in 'University of Colorado Recruiting Archive' started by Buffnik, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    In the NFL, Bill Belichick was the first to make a commitment to this and it worked. LBs that can play TE. WRs that can flip over to DB. Etc., etc. Last season, UCLA didn't shy away from finding a RB from among its starting LBs.

    It looks like HCMM is all about recruiting football athletes who can play multiple positions. He's building horizontal depth. Even the OLs he recruits seem to have played every spot on the OL.

    What got me thinking about this and posting something is that this multi-position ability thing is a complete pain in the ass for the mods of this forum. And there's so much that is situational, like a Nickel Corner or a Slot WR. HCMM seems to recruit for those situation spots.

    Having done the recruiting board through 3 coaches now, figuring out position for recruiting profiles and depth charts is by far the most difficult it has ever been. Part of the difficulty is that there are a lot of cases where the position a guy is recruited to eventually play is different than the position the guy will compete for a spot at during his first couple years. They're projecting body changes with age and training into the recruiting now. It's like: "Yeah. Great hands and we recruited him as a TE. But in 2 or 3 years we expect that he'll either be a DE or play somewhere on the OL."

    We try to avoid the "ATH" designation as much as possible, but it's getting more difficult to avoid.
     
  2. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    Don't know that this is all that new. Lots of examples over the years.

    Back when Barry Switzer was winning titles at Oklahoma it was amazing how many of his players came out of HS as something else. He would recruit 15 RBs a year and turn a bunch of them into DBs and LBs, he recruited LBs and used them as DL, and on and on.
     
  3. Eggon

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    Taking your thought a step further, I have heard Mac say on several occasions he loves kids that are successful in others sports. Prioritizes them above singularly successful football focused athletes as a tie breaker.
     
  4. tante

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    Interesting what sport would you prize the most based on position?

    OL,DL = wrestling
    DB, WR = basketball
    QB = baseball

    Where do RBs and LBs fit
     
  5. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    I'd be inclined to throw Linebackers in with the grapplers and the Running backs in with basketball and baseball.
     
  6. Eggon

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    Check out Mac comments per Shaver at DE/LB. State champion last year as a junior in Discuss. Predicts he will repeat. Will leave it at that.

    (nice dog)
     
  7. Duff Man

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    Need to continue to get taller players.
     
  8. BehindEnemyLines

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    Nice start, Tante.

    I think wrestling is a good "other" sport for LB's. Also seems to fit well when a rb/wr/db run track, particularly sprints.
     
  9. MtnBuff

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    I have always been a huge believer in wrestling for football players. It relies so much on balance and body control that it naturally translates for many guys.

    It also is very good for developing total body strength and flexibility. I have never seen a study of it but I would be willing to put a quality beer on the idea that football players with a wrestling background have fewer neck and shoulder injuries from football. It would also follow that wrestlers are less likely to suffer injuries that come from falling as well.
     
  10. Yung Buffalo

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    HCMM mentioned track and field a lot at the luncheon. He talked about a couple of the linemen being state championship competitors in discus and shotput. He also mentioned that Eddy Lopez was a multiple time national cycling champion as a kid.
     
  11. tante

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    Yeah track and field is obvious, don't know how I missed it.
     
  12. FightCu1414

    FightCu1414 Fifth year Senior Club Member

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    Trust me this doesn't workout very well at all. I played QB and baseball up until 8th grade and had to make a choice. I had a hard time going from baseball to football and throwing a football like a baseball. It's worked out for Winston, but it was really tough going back and forth. The arm slots are different and can hurt an arm.
     
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    QB = baseball worked pretty good for Todd Helton
     
  14. Bigbuffs

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    3 of the 4 quarterbacks that played in the NFL championship games were drafted by the MLB, the exception of course being Manning. Dan Marino and John Elway were also drafted by the MLB. Michael Vick, Brandon Weeden, and Matt Cassel also. There are a lot of non-quarterbacks too. I'm sure there were countless others as well. It is true that it doesn't always work out but there are countless success stories as well.
     
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    And Colin Kaepernick
     
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    ... Russell Wilson, Josh Fields, [strike]Kyle Parker[/strike]... As with any multi-sport athlete it's tough to balance practices and make that decision as to which needs to be focused on full-time. But props to any athlete who can stand out in both. Takes serious skill and dedication.
     
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    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Misleading thread title. Thought Nik had taken over UHC responsibilities.
     
  18. Buffnik

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    We need someone to step up on that this offseason.
     
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    Do it, Wspy, you ****er!
     
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    I was hoping this thread was an extension of the 'ponytails and yoga pants' thread.
     
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    All positives, however, the biggest plus of wrestling may be that it teaches the confidence needed to win individual battles against potentially superior athletes.
     
  22. MtnBuff

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    Can't agree more along with the concept of personal responsibility. A wrestler can't blame teammate for not getting him the ball, coaches for calling the wrong play, etc. You win or you lose based on what you do, period.
     
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    Link??
     
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    I just find it odd I cannot find it on google. Not that I was questioning the authenticity, I just found it interesting as I used to race bikes as a junior. But when I looked it up I couldn't find anything


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