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how far away are we from being a threat in the PAC:12

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by tante, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    since it was the offseason and boring I started thinking about how awesome it would be if we could grab a handful of guys from the Penn State roster to play for CU this fall. I started think about how many players it would take for us to finish 2nd in the PAC:12 south. Let's say we grabbed these guys:

    OFFENSE
    Silas Redd RB: 1250 yards, 7 TDs
    Justin Brown WR: 35 reception, 520 yards, 2 TD


    DEFENSE
    Gerald Hodges LB: 106 Tackles, 4.5 Sacks
    Jordon Hill DT: 59 Tackles, 3.5 Sacks

    what would added these four guys do to our team? What if we added either a CB or S and an interior o-lineman? Would that be enough to finish 2nd in the PAC:12 South? Just wondering how far we really are away, do we just need a couple of game-changers in a few key positions?
     
  2. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    Recognizing how much of a stretch you are making even with the assumption these four players were coming the answer is no, this wouldn't be enough for 2nd place. There is still a cultural change in progress that needs to be further along for the Buffs to enjoy real competitiveness and we need quality depth at several key positions that I think would prevent a 2nd place finish
     
  3. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    I didn't intend to say those guys were coming, I was saying that if we got those four players, how much of a boost would that give us? I picked those guys because hypothetically we can get them here (realistically we won't).
     
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  4. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    And three other teams in the South are facing those issues as well.
     
  5. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    Understood and no offense intended. But no it wouldn't be enough
     
  6. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

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    CU is a Quality BCS QB, RB,WR,TE,OL,DE,DL,LB and Safety away. :thumbsup:
     
  7. Buff_since76

    Buff_since76 Still a fan... Club Member

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    So we are set at CB, got it!
     
  8. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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    The offseason is a helluva drug.
     
  9. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    You have no idea I'm going nuts.
     
  10. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    To bad football sucks in an all-star game format and is so hard on the body.

    Could you image the money that could be made this time of year with a series of games featuring alumni players from various schools playing alumni from other rival schools.

    How fast would they sell out in Lincoln to see a buch of old fuskers play, how much could you charge to see Texas alumni play aTm alumni in Jerryworld. An Ohio State-Michigan match-up would drive them nuts.
     
  11. FChairbanks

    FChairbanks muthaka slayer Club Member

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    as cool as this idea is, i can't see it happening. injury delays on every play and potential destruction of the football legacies would get in the way of a successful venture.
     
  12. DesertDawg526

    DesertDawg526 Resident Dawg Club Member

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    CU is still 2-3 years away unfortunately. Hopefully they're back fast, but it takes time to rebuild a burned program...

    (even UW in year 4 under Sark is at least another year away best case scenario)
     
  13. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    we've proven that at allbuffs every summer except maybe one over the last 5-6 years. oh brotha.
     
  14. 77buff

    77buff Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully 2 years, but realistically 3 maybe 4. Hawkins destroyed the CU football program, almost as much as Fairbanks - who was the all time worst.
     
  15. JimmyBuff

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    At least 2 yrs but probably about 4 from being a South division contender.
     
  16. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    This is all assuming Embo actually gets this thing straightened out
     
  17. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    And assuming that he gets the support from others that he needs as well.

    We need to get help on the admissions front.

    It is also important that we see the kind of progress on facilities that can be sold to recruits and fans generating enthusiasm going forward. The scoreboards are a start but they were almost something that was forced by the obsolecence of the old ones. Additional stadium upgrades, even if they don't involve additional seating, a permanent indoor practice facility, continued improvements to lockerrooms, team facilities, academic center, etc. are needed just to keep Embree in the conversation with other schools.

    We also need to see a commitment to keep assistants salaries competitive. CU has been know for a long time as being on the low end for paying assistants. We need to be at least competitive enough going forward that our best assistants aren't forced to listen when offers come from other places.

    I am by nature an optimist and believe that Embree is making good progress considering where the program was. Even if he doesn't turn the program into a solid winner the next coach will inherit a program that is much more solid than Embree came into.

    That said turning a loser into a winner is hard enough. Without the needed support from the school and the AD I don't see Embree or anyone succeeding in the long run in any period of time.
     
  18. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    He's getting plenty of help from admissions. I don't think that is a legitimate complaint at this moment.

    Our assistants are some of the highest paid in the conference, if I'm not mistaken.

    I agree with the rest.
     
  19. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Even though they turned down Crawley and Wilson this cycle and DiStepheno had to go to bat for them to get them in. The committee needs to quit with the harvard of the west idea.
     
  20. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    It is an unpopular opinion on this board, but the coaching staff needs to actually coach up some guys to help turn this around.
     
  21. sackman

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    I don't know why that's an unpopular opinion. I don't think there's any denying it.
     
  22. BuffSurveyor

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    I would say CU is 4-6 years from being a real threat in the Pac 12. That is if Embre is not needing to be replaced. He seems like a good coach, so he should be around for some time.
     
  23. buffsyko

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    Thank you, well said.
     
  24. Bill Cody

    Bill Cody Well-Known Member

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    I assume you're maintaining that they haven't done this in their short stint here. Last year, I saw noticeable improvement in the guys that actually took coaching AND had ability. Clemons, Rippy and CUD to name a few. I really have little concern as it relates to this staff's ability to coach players. They do need to improve in their game day coaching IMO.
     
  25. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Shut your ****ing hole. No one asked you. No one.
     
  26. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I am saying we really do not know their coaching ability right now, although I do think they are getting a little too much credit for coaching the 2011 team to three wins.
     
  27. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    How many do you think we should have won? I'm leaning towards either 5 or 6 (Hawaii, Cal, WSU, Zona, Utah, and CSU with Hawaii being the 6th game).
     
  28. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Matching 2010's win total would have been nice.
     
  29. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Agreed
     
  30. Idot Buff

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    WTF? You need to be nice to the dooshbag from hell. And thanks in advance for the negative rep.
     
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