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How important is it for Mac to get a win?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by DBT, Oct 20, 2014.

  1. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    We're coming down the home stretch winless in the Pac12 for the season. We've had two games you could argue we should've won. As another depressing season becomes a reality, and even though I do think we are getting better, I am really beginning to believe Mac needs a breakthrough in these last 5 games. I think it is important, for a lot of reasons, for Mac to show that he can not just compete against quality opponents, but that he can win against 'em. I think the 3 remaining home games are winnable. If he goes 0-5 and even loses 2 or 3 close ones, I think it will be a step back.

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  2. Tractor

    Tractor Club Member Club Member

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    Pretty darn.
     
  3. SINKRATZ

    SINKRATZ Club Member Club Member

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    A win would be huge. As much as anything, I think this team needs some things to start going their way so they build some confidence. Having a team full of kids who truly believe they can beat these teams in conference on any given week would be a big step.
     
  4. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I guess somewhat important, but he will be here in 2015 regardless. That is when W/L really starts to matter.
     
  5. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Extremely imo. Coaching the only team in CU history to go winless in-conference would destroy any confidence for next year. 4-8 to 2-10 regardless of schedule would look like a step back to pretty much everyone
     
  6. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    No doubt about that and I'd expect nothing less. But I think a win or two down the stretch will give him much more to build on, including gaining the team's confidence.
     
  7. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

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    I hope he wins. 'Cause if he doesn't, apparently I'm a racist.
     
  8. skibum

    skibum Peed in your Cheerios. Club Member

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    Listen to Bill Snyder about rebuilding a team. He always says it comes down to one thing: get better every week.

    We regressed last week. If we return to getting better every week, we'll win another one this year, and make no mistake, that win is very important.

    No more wins makes for a very ugly off-season. I think (hope) that there will changes regardless of whether there's another win or not, but the environment within which those changes are made is very different.

    Think about late January, heading into signing day when there's always some last minute convolutions. There's a world of difference between "we're getting better, we beat a quality team at the end of the season, and brought on some quality assistants to keep us going in the right direction," and "we're getting better, and the school is committed to winning, look at new facilities, and we hired some new coaches, and the basketball team is good, and Ralphie!"

    Ok, well, Ralphie is allsome, but there is a huge advantage to being able to point to a win on the field against a quality opponent, and every team left on the schedule is a quality opponent.
     
  9. Buffalo Brad

    Buffalo Brad Club Member Club Member

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    Fits your narative anyway or at least what you have been touting from day 1
     
  10. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    Winning one game or two the rest of the way out probably won't help recruiting, nor the pundits. I believe getting a win or two would be more of a boost with the psyche of the team. At this point they need something go their way. 2015, as mentioned, will be the do or die year for Mac. No one will be on the bandwagon if we see next year what we are seeing this year. Heck, going anything but undefeated in non conference would be hard to come back from.
     
  11. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    I don't see our teams confidence being shot even if we lose out. This isn't a team coached by Embree or Hawk. This team has showed fight every single week. Every. Single. Week.
     
  12. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    Except last week. They got ****stomped.
     
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  13. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    We ****ing fought till the end!

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    Facts. We tied their first stringers the second half. We even took out our starters before they did.
     
  14. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    This might be the most pathetic post I've ever seen. I'm honestly just ashamed for you flounder.
     
  15. DavisBuff

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    A win now would be a big deal. It would be a tangible sign that we are on the right track, which will speed up the road to recovery by helping recruiting. I have read a couple posts talking about new assistants. I don't see Mac making many changes with his staff. We need one more ace recruiter that can really sell the program. I would be stoked to see CU put up the money to go out and pick up Tosh Lupoi, Ed Orgeron, or Tony Alford.
     
  16. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    We had an Embree moment in the first quarter, that is undeniable.

    The team fought back to make it from a beating from 2012 to our worst loss of the year.


    And oh yeah, this loss, this USC loss, the point differential is better than lasts years point differential for the season.

    That's progress. Facts on paper. Not some dolt with an opinion.
     
  17. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Hahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  18. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    I can't believe he actually said we took our starters out before they did as if it was some sort of accomplishment.

    I just don't even.
     
  19. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    Flounder that is the stupidest **** ever. Wham you get beat like that you do not take any positives from it.
     
  20. DBT

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    Mac needs to show he can out coach someone. Jim Mora would be a good start.
     
  21. CVilleBuff

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    It's not quite a deal breaker since it's year 2 and we all know we're far better than 2012 regardless, but for confidence purposes breaking through is very important. Hard to envision switching a winless Pac 2014 season into a bowl season one year later, although there's an example of a certain p5 team on the verge of accomplishing that right now, albeit in a far weaker conference. We need to learn how to win conference game(s), and soon. Still think we find one.
     
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  22. Eggon

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    Crucial for recruiting sake. Current players know that all too well. Got to get over the hump. Don't see Oegon as even a long shot chance so scratch that one. Start this week to find a way to win.

    Play like the first half last week and it is a problem that will not be solved.
     
  23. buffedup

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    Crucial to get a win. Players were so close, but have nothing to show for it yet. They need something good to happen. Huge for recruiting too.
     
  24. zbuff

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    We really needed to beat the two beatable teams we already lost to. At some point you have to have the players. We're getting further behind with 2.5 Rivals average rating last year, actually less right now this year.
     
  25. gobuffs58

    gobuffs58 Well-Known Member

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    i think mac 2 is a good game day coach motivator etc but the fact is you cannot possibly find enough "hidden gems" on the recruiting trail to compete in the pac 12....we need jucos and to win some recruiting battles for legit 3star at least recruits....its still going to be a long road to the middle of the pac 12
     
  26. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    Who says we can't compete.
     
  27. fatbuff

    fatbuff Well-Known Member

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    Our record?
     
  28. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    Our record indicates we can't compete with young hidden gems, but we can compete with guys Mac has recruited.
     
  29. sackman

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    I think it is important for the teams psyche to win one or two of the remaining five games. That's a brutally long off season without a single PAC 12 win to hang your hat on.
     
  30. SINKRATZ

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    We called of the dogs in the second half. It was the right thing to do, we don't want to embarrass those kids from USC, especially on their homecoming.
     

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