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Hurry up + Altitude?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Heywood, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Heywood

    Heywood The actual El Guapo Club Member

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    I was just reading some article about Oregon's quick pace and it reminded me of something I have been wondering.

    Why dont we run a hurry up offense at home? You, me, Embree always talk about our homefield advantage because of the altitude. Why do we not fully use that advantage? It seems like we could really gas a D if we ran a faster paced offense.

    Why dont we? Is it

    a. it doesnt fit the "pro" style offense
    b. we dont have the athletes/talent
    c. we would just **** it up with more mental mistakes than before
    d. the green coaching staff isn't up to the task yet
    e. We need to cover our weaknesses by controlling the clock (from tini)

    Let me know, cause I am having a hard time figuring this out.

    I am not saying we have to be Oregon, but we could use this package. It seems like if we just pulled it out of our hat for the first drive to get that elusive "quick start", or if we followed a big play with some hurry up, or if we sprung it on someone late in the game when they are already tired, it could be a big advantage.

    It seems like we have a good advantage why not use it?
     
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  2. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    We need to cover our weaknesses by controlling the clock. At least that's my guess.
     
  3. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    I think that's a great point BCS...
     
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  4. Heywood

    Heywood The actual El Guapo Club Member

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    good point tini

    I will put that on the list
     
  5. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I'd like to see us play with more pace. It puts a lot of pressure on a defense.

    One thing we've never seen is the hurry-up used with power football. Talk about something that would completely wear a defense down.
     
  6. Duff Man

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    The coaching staff does not trust their QB.
     
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    fify
     
  8. Heywood

    Heywood The actual El Guapo Club Member

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    I realize that we may not have the talent, mentality, etc to pull this off consistently and that we need to control the clock, but if we could use it at certain times it might be helpful. Also Nik I like the idea of fast paced power football, could be interesting.

    I will forward that one to Embo
     
  9. 3option

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    How many more penalties would the o-line have with less time to get set?
     
  10. DBT

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    Thought this was a hockey thread. Sorry.
     
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  11. JWP303

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    All of the above... Everyone makes valid points. Too many deficiencies. Plus we've got a first year coordinator who is learning on the fly. Players learning a new system. I think an effective no huddle comes with chemistry and starters who all know the system inside and out. I'd expect to see more no huddle in a couple years when everyone is more familiar with the system and the level of execution.
     
  12. 84Buff

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    You listed five very good reasons why not to do it. All the hurry-up would accomplish is much faster 3 and outs and letting the opposing team wear down our defense that much faster.

    In time as the talent level and coaching improves it should be considered.
     
  13. skibum

    skibum Peed in your Cheerios. Club Member

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    I'm going to sort of reverse the thought: will the altitude hurt hurry-up teams when they come to Folsom? Oregon scores a lot more in the second half than the first; a lot of folks think this is because their pace of play wears the defense down. CU coaches have noted that when/if altitude is a factor, it's a factor in the late 3rd / 4th quarter.

    It should be noted that this is my singular hope for us not having an epic beat-down next week. Still lose, but the score ends up more respectable just because the duck is sucking wind the second half.
     
  14. J.R. Ewing

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    We don't have the depth.
     
  15. zbuff

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    Power football? What's that?
     
  16. BuffUp

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    we need to get the "little things" right first - baby steps, baby steps
     
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    You raise another question though - does Oregon risk tiring itself out if they are running the Hurry-Up and we are forcing them to have longer (plays/time) drives?
     
  18. DBT

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    Hurry up against Oregon = more TOP for Oregon = 80 points
     
  19. Walter White

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    You can't control the clock if you don't get a first down. Won't make a diff if you go slow and you're three and out.
     
  20. Darth Snow

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    Solid post. Welcome.
     
  21. Unleash Hell

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    How about we get some big nasty O-linemen, some good power backs, some good fullbacks and some dual threat QB's and just run the offense we have always been succesful with here with the right perseonel. A physical smashmouth run first offense.
     
  22. Walter White

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    CU had that with Barnett. 2001 B12 conf champ game was exactly that.
     
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    With a hurry up in the second half after a quick turnover once we get our personal in. That'd probably gas the d line even more.
     
  24. Walter White

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    It's all about the smart and nasty o-line. CU has has a lot of those guys in the past. Gritty white dudes with long hair.
     
  25. krom

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    I am starting to think that the altitude advantage doesn't mean squat. These athletes are in top notch condition and I imagine that it doesn't take long for them to get acclimatized to the altitude. Didn't seem to effect MU when they were routinely hanging 50 on us. Didn't seem to effect WSU, or Cal or any other team that has walked away from Folsom with a win. Maybe if Folsom were at 10,000 feet.
     
  26. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    It doesn't affect the skill players as much but it does affect the hogs up front. It's not a huge difference maker, but it does help a bit.
     
  27. Unleash Hell

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    No it does. It doesn't equal an automatic W for us obviously, but it does have an effect on people if you're not used to it.
     
  28. Walter White

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    First, the game has to be close. It's not like playing with an extra two guys on the field, but in the 4th quarter of a tight game it can be a factor for the fat guys up front and also the skill guys doign all of the running. All you need is a half step. You get that if the guy opposite of you is gassed.
     
  29. Walter White

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    Being strong and being fit are not even close to the same thing.
     
  30. skibum

    skibum Peed in your Cheerios. Club Member

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    Having been in great shape (past tense) and living at sea level, when coming back to Colorado I definitely noticed a difference in performance. Not a huge difference, but one I noticed. (Out of shape now, I *really* notice it.) The folks at MU, OU, NU, etc knew about the altitude difference. They'd experienced it, and knew how to game plan/adjust for it. One off visitors - not so much.

    It will be an ever so slight advantage with our new conference mates (sans the Utards) for the next couple years - and will diminish to "not much" after a couple of cycles of them visiting here.
     

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