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If conference loyalty always resisted progress/consolidation...

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by ScottyBuff, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    This is what college football conferences would look like (only eliminating schools that voluntarily dropped athletics or de-emphasized):

    Big Ten (IFCR)Big 6/8 (MVIA)Skyline (MSC)SWCPac-8 (PCC)ACC (Southern)SEC (Southern)
    MinnesotaMissouriColoradoTexasCaliforniaClemsonAlabama
    IllinoisKansasColorado StateTexas A&MWashingtonNorth CarolinaAuburn
    WisconsinNebraskaUtahArkansasOregonN.C. StateGeorgia
    PurdueIowa StateUtah StateBaylorOregon StateVirginiaGeorgia Tech
    NorthwesternKansas StateBYURiceWashington StateVirginia TechFlorida
    MichiganWyomingOklahomaStanfordMarylandLSU
    IndianaMontana StateOklahoma StateIdahoSouth CarolinaTulane
    IowaSMUUSCDukeTennessee
    Ohio StateTCUMontanaWake ForestVanderbilt
    Michigan StateHoustonUCLAFlorida StateKentucky
    Mississippi
    Mississippi State
    BorderEastern (A-10)WACSun BeltBig EastConference USA (Metro) MAC
    ArizonaPenn StateSan Diego StateSouth FloridaSyracuseLouisvilleOhio
    Arizona StateRutgersHawaiiSouth AlabamaConnecticutMemphis
    Cincinnati
    New MexicoPittsburghAir ForceUA-BirminghamBoston CollegeSouthern Miss
    Miami (OH)
    New Mexico StateWest VirginiaFresno StateWestern KentuckyMiamiEast Carolina
    Western Michigan
    Texas TechUMassUNLVArkansas State
    Toledo
    UTEPTempleSan Jose StateLouisiana Tech Kent State
    VillanovaTulsaUL-LafayetteBowling Green
    NevadaCentral FloridaMarshall
    Boise StateFlorida InternationalCentral Michigan
    Texas StateNorth TexasEastern Michigan
    UT-San AntonioMiddle Tenn. St.Ball State
    UL-MonroeNorthern Illinois
    TroyAkron
    Florida AtlanticBuffalo
     
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    HotRack Rez BubbleHead Club Member

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    What hell is this? Makes no sense...
     
  3. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    I left some of the D-IAA members that probably would have stayed D-IA like Montana, Montana State, and Villanova if they had stayed with those conferences all along.

    Obviously the Big East members would have more than likely joined up with the Eastern Conference (hindsight is always 20/20, eh there Big East?) rather than forming their own conference. That would have prevented Penn State from eventually joining the Big Ten.

    The interesting dynamic would have been if the Skyline Conference would have eventually merged with the Border Conference or the Big "6".

    Iowa was a partial member of both the Big Ten and the Big "6", choosing the Big Ten obviously, but if they had chosen the Big 6 there might have been stability with that group. If not, then possibly the Conference USA members, or at least several of them, would fit with the Big 6 group.
     
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    HotRack Rez BubbleHead Club Member

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    Thanks for the explanation, but my head still hurts.:lol:
     
  5. Heywood

    Heywood The actual El Guapo Club Member

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    I count 14 conferences? how many are there now?

    A big think that drew conference borders was the speed of the world back then. As we saw a CU game with Hawaii took a month of travel. And fans (especially out west) probably rarely left the state (or town) they grew up in so it was hard to get any interest outside of your immediate geographic area.
     
  6. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for inducing brain pain on you! just bored and was doing some revisionist history on college conference formation.

    It really illustrates how out of place Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would be in the PAC. They were SWC members, then Big 6/8 members, then Big 12 members with more in common with Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Texas, Texas Tech, and Arkansas than they do with any current members of the PAC.

    The last time there was a "super-conference" the Southern Conference (the precursor to the SEC and ACC) started with 14 members then expanded up to 23 teams. After 10 years there was a split in the membership along geographic lines that led to the SEC and ACC forming separately.

    If the SEC went "super" all by there lonesome (meaning the ACC was left intact and staved off any Big Ten expansion attempts) by inviting Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Missouri; I could see a repeat of that happening in the future with the division occurring along East/West division lines.
     
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    HotRack Rez BubbleHead Club Member

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    [video=youtube;hUjI3tslL_4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUjI3tslL_4[/video]
     
  8. ScottyBuff

    ScottyBuff Well-Known Member

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    11 now. The Border, Skyline, and Eastern disappeared as D-IA football "conferences".

    Certainly a valid point about the "progress" of technology, communications, and travel has helped to shrink the world of college athletics. It is easy to look back and see the "victims" of that progress along the way and see why the deck was stacked against them: Sewanee, Denver, CC, Drake, Grinnell, Southwestern U, Washington & Lee, VMI, William & Mary.

    Who is the next that will join that group?

    For every South Florida or Louisville that rose from humble conference origins and elevated themselves into a BCS conference, there are many more regional teams that were left behind during subsequent realignments (Idaho and Montana in the PCC/PAC; the leftover SWC members; Tulane in the SEC, UMass or Temple that were "in the group")
     

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