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If Connor Wood was the starter against CSU, is Embree employed today?

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  1. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    The thought just occurred to me that had we started the guy who had all the Spring starter snaps, we *probably* beat both CSU and Sac St., and possibly have the confidence to pull wins at Fresno and UA with potential wins against ASU, UW and UU. By the time we played UCLA, our confidence was shot. I don't think the team had confidence in Webb.

    Revionist history is fun. I don't know if it would have made any difference at all, but it's fun to speculate.
     
  2. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    Depends if good Connor or bad Connor shows up.
     
  3. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    We maybe beat Sac State. We finish 2-10 instead.
     
  4. Rraalph 3000

    Rraalph 3000 Well-Known Member

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    I've thought this same thing, but the real question is probably if Shane Dillon didn't get hurt......as I think it's apparent in hindsight that Wood/Webb/Hirsch all equally "struggled", so the only legitimacy to this question would have to be the hope on someone else

    As an answer though....if they did not have the most or close to the most inept QB in all of College Football, then NO he would not have been fired as it'd be likely they don't lose the first 2 games.
     
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  5. CenturyBuff

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    If we were a 3 win team, yes, JE would still be here IMO.

    Could retitle this thread "If JE handled the QB situation throughout the year with any competence, he may very well still be the head coach."
     
  6. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    There was no way the Buffs were going to beat Fresno, I don't care who played QB.


    But CSU and Sac. State might have turned out differently if another QB had played. They might not, also.
     
  7. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    Was HIrschman injured to start the season? He always seemed to be the best QB to me.
     
  8. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Exactly. I would not be happy but I never would have called for JE's job. Everyday this woe is me BS drags on I lose respect for JE. Mac too.
     
  9. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    Not sure. Connor wasn't that great this year after all (and I was a big supporter initially). Hirsch wasn't that great either but at least he has a big enough arm to keep defenses honest.

    I think if Hirsch plays the first few games we beat CSU and Sac St and still get blown out by Fresno and most other teams. But you could erase some of the INT's Hirsch threw against Utah if had more time in the Offense so we'd have won that too.

    Prediction: 4-8 Embree still around
     
  10. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

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    No way. As bad as the QB play was this year (by all our QBs), the piss poor coaching was the trump card.
     
  11. zbuff

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    With our D and playcalling, every game is at risk. I think if we did a restart we'd go 0-12.
     
  12. Tea Rex

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    We'd probably be 0-12
     
  13. gobuffs58

    gobuffs58 Well-Known Member

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    hirsh was by far the best qb... and that is not saying much
     
  14. Finest

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    Wood probably would have beaten Sacky State, but Webb made some big plays to beat Washington State. It wouldn't surprise me to have beaten Sacky State and lost to Washington State with Wood starting...and CSU would be a toss-up.
     
  15. BuffUp

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    either way we are what we think we are. 1-11 - it is all about the coaching these kids got
     
  16. Buffs1990

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    we will only be as good as our QB....good coach or not....Dillion better be it
     
  17. Benner0

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    Today i join this community because i really like this community football is my favorite game and i want to get more informations about wood and football from here i hope i will get certain informations from here..

     
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  18. SuperBuff

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    If you want informations from this community on wood there are a few guys you might want to ask first... Burrito!
     
  19. Idot Buff

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    God dammit. Another Husker troll among us.
     
  20. BuffHerd

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    What does replacing one ineffective QB with another have to do with no halftime adjustments, playing 12yard DB cushions on third and five, no pass rush, no tackling, stale play calling, no discipline, we can go on all day.... It was a complete disaster, not just the wrong QB.

    I would also suggest that CSU specifically had less to do with QB play and more to do with the failure to recognize that you dont ask a freshman to return that punt before half and you need to display confidence in your OL to get one yard on fourth and one on the goal line. That comes down to coaching, not QB play.
     
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    God dammit. Another Husker Honors English Major troll among us.
     
  22. Buffenuf

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    fify
     
  23. Buffenuf

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    ALL your informations are belong to us!
     
  24. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    He type english like Gasm do. Gasm now a fusker maybe.
     
  25. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Clearly, there is much wood in this community. To learn about football, you must sit at the feet, (but don't uncover them!), of 'Nik, Duff, 'holic, and the like.
     
  26. BuffNut

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    Couldn't DISAGREE with this more. So much went into the bad QB play last year including bad coaching. IF a good QB does not have a serviceable WR corps, competent playcalling, reasonable protection, then they will not be good and we will not be good. No one component can decide how good we will be.
     
  27. aik

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    Rep this man!
     
  28. Buff_since76

    Buff_since76 Still a fan... Club Member

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    If we are going to play the what if game:

    If HaLk hadn't screwed up, and Tyler Hansen was actually able to red-shirt, would Embre still be here? I bet he would have brought in Wood, but I doubt he would have brought in Webb. The QB battle would have been in the spring (with TH most likely winning), and I bet Tyler would have beaten CSU and Sac St.

    Something else EB can balme HaLk for?
     
  29. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    The defense was so atrocious I'm not sure anything would have made a difference. Hirsh may have made the difference in one game, but that's about it IMO. It really boils down to incompetent coordinators and HC.
     

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