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Initial KenPom Rankings Out

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Goose, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    The methodology is here, so don't freak out over it. He even admits that the initial ones are a work in progress. With that said....

    6.) UCLA
    23.) Arizona
    36.) Stanford
    39.) Cal
    57.) Colorado
    69.) Oregon State
    70.) Washington
    91.) Oregon
    95.) Washington State
    188.) USC
    218.) Arizona State
    309.) Utah (Jesus hell... one spot behind Tennessee Martin and one ahead of North Carolina A&T)

    Non-conference opponents:

    10.) Kansas
    20.) Baylor (Charleston Classic)
    87.) St. John's (CC)
    92.) Colorado State
    99.) Murray State (CC)
    104.) Dayton
    134.) Boston College (CC)
    136.) Charleston (CC)
    138.) Wyoming
    146.) Fresno State
    151.) Air Force
    179.) Auburn (CC)
    198.) Wofford
    250.) Texas Southern
    267.) Hartford
    325.) Northern Arizona

    Projects out to an 18-10 record (10-8 in conference) not counting the second two games of the CC.
     
  2. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    only one game above 300. Too bad Northern Arizona doesn't play duke this year. They would be top 20
     
  3. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

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    You're thinking RPI. Kenpom usually doesn't get caught up in that crap, you actually have to beat those quality teams you play.
     
  4. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

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    LOL, I jotted down my rough-draft Pac-12 standings last night, and they're almost identical.

    The only discrepancy is I have USC higher and OSU lower.
     
  5. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    I am surprised CU is this high, they finished 74th in his final rankings last year. 5th in the P-12 is a reasonable projection. I obviously love stats as much as anybody, but no way do I see UCLA as the 6th best "team", they may have the talent on paper for that projection, but there are just to many things that need to break their way for everything to work out for them.
     
  6. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    UCLA is going to be a massive disappointment this season. Everyone's talking about how Muhammad alone is enough to take the Bruins deep in the tourney. Muhammad, if he's cleared, is a damn good player and probably the first pick in the draft. But does anyone think he's better than Durant was at Texas? Durant only got his team to the second (third? Stupid new naming system) round.
     
  7. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I'm not freaking out over that at all. I think it's reasonable, actually. I do think that we're probably better than Stanford and Cal, though. (although we have yet to prove we can do anything against Stanford).
     
  8. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    One of the things I like best about the KenPom rankings are his projected scores (Vegas has admitted factoring these in heavily to make their point spreads). We have talked a lot about Dayton, KenPom only has CU a 3 point fav, 68-65 projected W for the Buffs.

    He also has CU going 18-10 overall and 10-8 in conf.
     
  9. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    is Cal a bit high to anyone else?
     
  10. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    A touch, but I'm starting to come around on them. The more I look at that roster, and the more I consider Monty is their coach, the more I like them. I still don't think they're top 4, but I can understand why people are high on them.
     
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    WizzersGhost Banned BANNED

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    Please explain! I'm with Tante, I think Cal is way over-rated. And Stanford as well.

    And I think CSU is seriously under-rated! They could beat either Cal or Stanford in Ft Fun and play them even on a neutral court. Buffs are going to have to work hard to beat 'em in Boulder.
     
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    I would rather CSU be rated higher as well. The higher there rating the better our win looks
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    1. Arizona
    2. CU
    3. Stanford
    4. UCLA
    5-12 Don't care
     
  15. CVilleBuff

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    If you asked me to guess, I would have said 50-60th. Exactly where I'd thought we'd be. We'll move up

    And yes, Utah basketball = CU football. Once proud programs that are so ****ing awful it's not even funny anymore.
     
  16. Goose

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    My Cal & Furd previews are scheduled to run next Tuesday. :thumbsup:
     
  17. jgisland

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    Stanford and Cal both had fantastic defenses last year. Stanford returns most of their team while Cal lost a couple of pieces but have some recruits coming in. Neither team is flashy, but they both have good D and solid guard play and will be a tough beat at home for sure.
     
  18. Goose

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    Just finished my USC preview and I'm now convinced that everyone is sleeping on them. Their only loss is Maurice Jones - a 5'7" guard who was probably going to be their fourth guard this season. They get three damn good players back from injuries - Jio Fontan (who could be the new Jorge Gutierrez), Dewayne Dedmon and Aaron Fuller. They also get four transfers coming in who would help any team, with JT Terrell being (IMO) a darkhorse for All-Pac-12.
     
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    So you are saying it is good we play them only at the keg.
     
  20. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I am. Arguably, we got the best combo to dodge (numbers in parenthesis the general consensus on pre-season predictions).

    Zona (Probably #1 or #2) - ASU (#10-12)
    UCLA (Probably #1 or #2) - USC (#4-#8)
    Cal (#4-#8) - Stanford (#3-#5)
    Oregon (#6-#8) - Oregon State (#7-#9)
    Washington (#5-#8) - Washington State (#9-#11).
     

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