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Josh Scott's Future

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by boydbuff, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    About a month ago I started a thread about the Mayor's future and I think most of us realize he is gone after this season.

    I am now starting to wonder about Scott's future. I suspect this year is too soon and he still has plenty to improve on but I could see him leaving early for the NBA too. Perhaps after next season? I am less knowledgable about how to evaluate bigs potential in the NBA so can someone else enlighten me/us about Scott's prospects?

    He seems MUCH improved this year, with the added bulk, but hasn't seemed to have lost a step either. He is pretty damn good on defense, has become a better rebounder and I think could eventually be a damn good scorer down loo too. He has also become a good passer especially now with the increasing double teams he is getting.

    There aren't that many big guys in the NBA that move as well as he does. Of course he needs to get bigger to play down low in the NBA day in and day out.

    What do you guys think? Is he:
    1.) So good he could consider even leaving this year (I don't think so)
    2.) On his way to the NBA after a good season this year and post season+ 1 more year of physical development and improvement (i.e. leaves 1 year early for the pros)-my bet
    3.) A damn good college player but will have to put in 4 years and maybe not even then be drafted?
     
  2. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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  3. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    George King going this year though?
     
  4. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    Aren't athletic big men the hardest to find at all levels? I would think with improved offensive production and some more meat on his bones he'd be an attractive option for an nba team that likes to stretch the floor.
     
  5. SECOBuffsFan

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    I have often felt that Scott is a four year player who will then be drafted in the 2nd round of the NBA draft.
     
  6. jgisland

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    Will wrote a good article on this the other day over on rivals. I agree with Will's assessment, "is he athletic enough to play in the NBA?" Right now I'm not so sure. He doesn't get much lift on his shots in the post and uses his body positioning to get off shots, not sure if he'll be able to do that at the next level where nearly everybody is an athletic freak and weakside help and length are easy to come by. He also needs to figure out how to hedge on the pick and roll and get back to his man in the same decade.

    So, yeah, basically what SECO said - thinking 4 years 2nd rd right now.
     
  7. BehindEnemyLines

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    I have no clue whether or not he'll jump after this season. He has certain skills and abilities -- he can score with both hands, he rebounds, he plays defense, he can pass, he runs well, and he's good from the charity stripe -- that some nba gm's will covet.

    I think he could use one more year in the weight room. Further, I think it would serve him well to develop a short range turn-around jump shot.

    jmho
     
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  8. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    A range of opinions here but seems like most feel no way this year, very outside chance next year, and a good chance for after his 4th year. If he improves every season like he did between last year and this year, and keeps getting bigger/stronger, he is going to be a beast by his senior year.
     
  9. Tractor

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    Andre Roberson 2012:
    6-7 210
    10.9 ppg
    11.2 rbg
    55% free throw
    Drafted in the first round


    Josh Scott 2013:
    6-10 245
    13.1 ppg
    9.2 rpg
    0.8 apg
    83% free throws

    Granted, the competition so far this season isn't up to PAC12 standards, so these numbers are probably going to go down come conference play. However, he's having a pretty damn good season so far.

    He's also showed incredible improvement over his first year.
    Josh Scott 2012:
    6-10 215
    10.2 ppg
    5.7 rbg
    0.6 apg
    75% free throws

    I think Scott is more draftable this year than a lot of you give him credit for. He's got size, numbers, and "touch" around the basket, but this year he's still got that "potential" that the NBA covets so much.

    If he can keep his numbers and impact on the game up, I would not be surprised at all to see him declare at the end of the season.
     
  10. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Not sure why you're comparing Andre to Scott... Different positions and much different players.

    Solid 4 year big man who might get drafted late. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
     
  11. mattrob

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    The problem with a Dre/Scott comparison is that Dre has the body type and explosiveness off the floor that NBA teams covet. With Scott, his game is built around his skill set. He's not going to wow teams in individual workouts and, as jg said, he has a lot to prove to NBA teams about getting his shot off against more athletic players. I wouldn't be surprised to see him succeed in the NBA in the future, but he will need such an advanced skill set to do so that 4 years in college will benefit him a lot more than some of the freak athletes who are drafted high on physical upside alone.

    In other words, Tad may have the ideal college recruit- a big who was able to contribute immediately, will continue to improve and will most likely play at least 3, probably 4 years at the college level. If he does get paid down the line, it's one more example of a player who doesn't fit the NBA profile perfectly bit was developed into an NBA player by Tad. If he doesn't make it, it's due to lack of athleticism. Pretty much a win all the way around for Tad.
     
  12. SECOBuffsFan

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    Dre to Scott is like apples to oranges....doesn't apply
     
  13. aik

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    3 or 4 year player. Has the skill set but in the zones we've seen in the nonconference he hasn't been able to assert himself against mostly inferior competition. Another offseason to bulk up and work on getting more aggressive without being a foul machine and I think he can leave next spring after a solid junior year.
     
  14. tante

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    What percentage of his shots get blocked?
     
  15. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I could see him leaving after next year, but not after this year.

    First of all, this year's draft is too deep to throw your hat into if you're not a lock for the 1st round. Next year's isn't expected to be as loaded.

    Secondly, Scott needs to show a couple things in terms of continued improvement. Counter-moves utilizing his right hand more, mid-range jump shot, court awareness/passing, increased bulk/strength, finishing though contact, footwork, defending away from the basket, and rebounding.

    He's made huge strides in all of those areas. He needs another year with the same type of improvement. If he does that, a 4th year in Boulder would be a bonus & luxury for us.
     
  16. boydbuff

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    Sounds like Nik and I are on the same page. If he continues to improve this year and next year and get stronger, he should have a good shot to go pro after his 3rd year. But, as Nik said, I'd be thrilled to have him as a 4 year starter.
     
  17. azbuff

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    Could be a three or four year player. I bet he goes in the 1st whether he decides to leave in 2015 or 2016.
     
  18. btbuff

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    Every time Scott gets the ball near the basket I just beg him to dunk it. Never happens, but he needs to be stronger finishing. His hands have gotten very sticky on rebounds though. He is making good progress.
     
  19. CVilleBuff

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    Entire top 11 contributors go pro after this year IMO.

    Until Scott dunks I'm skeptical of his NBA ability.
     
  20. rolandftw

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    He's likely to be a 4 year player. Not a NBA level athlete, so he's going to have to add other facets to his game to make it in the league. A reliable shot from 12 to 15 feet out would be a real asset.
     
  21. Medford M.

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    Developing a turn-around jumper/fadeaway will do wonders for his draft stock. I love the hook shot a much as anyone, but you have to have more than that. He'd be best served to get up to about 260, develop that turn around jumper, and his 3-ball, and he can play a long time in the league. He's never going to be explosive, but he has great hands, good post skills, and he can run. His defense has been better this year as well IMO.
     
  22. Mick Ronson

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    i'd like to see Scott be more assertive on the O end. take over games next year minus the mayor. i worry about the pace of play in the "League" with him. lot of good college paint players get lost in the speed of the game in the NBA. no time to run the 45 sec shot clock sets to set up the entry pass to the post with the 24 sec shot clock. i think he can make a roster and cash some checks at the next level. but a 6 7-6 8 guy who can play the 3, put the ball on the floor, create his own shot, rebound, is not all that rare in the NBA....enough that being 6 10 isn't automatically such advantage.
     
  23. SECOBuffsFan

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    I think when Scott gets to the NBA he will adapt....he has proven in his short time here that he will evolve to succeed. He has lots of room to grow in the post here and also time to develop the spot up game he will need for the NBA pick and roll, pick and pop game.

    When transitioning him into the NBA game...I see him as a David West type player, one that will get better in his first 5 years and be a solid 4 for a good team with parts around him.
     
  24. boydbuff

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    I think another aspect of this that noone has mentioned yet is Boyle has referred to him as a cerebral player who is in the playbook and understands and studies the game. That bodes well for his future here and at the next level.
     
  25. sackman

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    Scott is one of those players who never seems to take over a game, but when you look at the stats, he's always around a double/double. Every game. It's crazy. I think he has a lot of skills the NBA covets, like a perimeter shot to move the bigs out of the paint. I think it's very possible that he turns pro after his junior year.
     
  26. Shldr2Shldr

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    I think there is a chance we could lose XJ and Scott after next year. If XJ develops some consistency watch out. He can be flat out dominant.
     
  27. sackman

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    XJ is an enigma. Dude is incredible at times, and completely invisible at others.
     
  28. Shldr2Shldr

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    Thats exactly my point. If he can develop into a 12-15pt 5-8reb kind of guy on average, and then have his occasional monster game than he will be gone. But this whole two good games followed by an invisible one won't cut it at the next level.
     
  29. SECOBuffsFan

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    Yeah...XJ has all kinds of ability but can't seem to find it game in and game out...shoot sometimes he can't even find it for 2 halves....but if he does watch out cuz he would be scary for opponents
     
  30. Medford M.

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    IMO, XJ and Scott will both be 4 year players and have be very good college players, but neither will be a big time player in the NBA. Neither are even on NBA radar at this point.
     

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