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  1. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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  2. Timbuff10

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    Tweaks are always bad. I really wish these schools would just establish a tradition with uniforms and stop changing them. So whatever happened to the rumor that CU was going back tot he 90s style jerseys this year?
     
  3. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I get so sick of that stupid coach's ploy of not having players' names on the back of the jerseys. It doesn't win any more games and it just makes things harder for announcers and fans.
     
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    CSU is having their uniforms "tweaked' as well this year according to Fairchild, plus they are introducing a traditional Pumpkin Orange/Green third uniform.

    I might be the only one, but I would love to see CU wearing the Powder Blues and CSU in the Pumpkin Orange to start the season next fall.
     
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    you are
     
  7. Mick Ronson

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    gold helmets, folks.

    heck, KU changes their unis pretty much every year. about half the time since the 80's they are ripping off the NY Giants.
     
  8. OKCBuff

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    Exactly. Remember the year or two they had the blue helmet, red line down the center and "KANSAS" on the sides with a line under it? So bad.

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    I liked their western-font look with the KU having the little points and a red facemask.

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    Wow, that KU player is an animal! No helmet, plus he's playing on the D-line?!?

    I am a big fan of progressive uniform tweaks. Keeps things fresh. Traditional get really stale. Plus, as petty as it seems, most recruits like the trendy Nike uniform touches, more than us old alums want to believe. And for better or for worse, these little things have an effect on recruiting.
     
  10. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    Tell that to Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Penn State, etc.
     
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    Yeah, Southern Cal keeps changing their unis to help bring in all those awesome recruits, don't they? I wish they would stop doing that. Same with Texas and Alabama. You know, the two teams that played in the MNC game this year. I really, REALLY wish they'd stop messing with their uniforms. It's gotten so old. I guess you have to do whatever it takes to bring in those recruits, though.
     
  12. UrbanaBuff

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    Ahh, but those schools have enough tradition that it doesn't matter if they play shirts/skins.

    For as much bad press as Oregon gets recently for what many consider their ridiculous uniforms, has it drawn attention to the school? Do you think recruits are attracted to the fact that they are one of Nike's prototype uniform schools? I know that Knight's athletic department contributions are the main driver of this recent resurgence, but you can't tell me that uniforms haven't helped as well.
     
  13. Mick Ronson

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    helmet site won't let you use images.

    yeah, i remember. they did the "LT/Simms" era thing and more recently did the darker blue with the throwback NY/KU on the helmet and wore the gray pants before settling for this newish Reesing/Mangino era "Trajan" font (as they call it).
     
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    you're right about Oregon, if you are going to go big, GO BIG. that's what i say. we'd say a lot about our own tradition if we at least stuck with a logo and didn't get half-ass nonsense from Nike in the Hawkins era. silver is nice as a "theme" and school color but it looks like crap on the uni along with the weird shoulderpad things and geometry experiment on the pant. not to mention.....the green-gold helmet.

    we used to have the best, most badass uni in football. now we look like crap (home unis). gold pants on the road? bleh.

    here's Mick!
     
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    Thanks! It worked when I posted it, but I guess it discovered my evil hotlinking ways. Oh well.

    As for unis and helmets: this is college. I think if you're a school with a certain look, you should keep it. People always talk about "Well, recruits today love new unis" but then you see OU, UT, Bama, Penn State, etc., ALWAYS bring in top names. I mean, PSU is a uniform TEMPLATE for all intents and purposes. It's like someone brought in a navy blue uni and said:

    "OK, this is the base uniform and we can do this and th..."

    "PERFECT! Let's go with that?"

    "With what?"

    "With what you have there! It's great! Hey, I gotta go catch the groundhog deal -- later!"

    Anyway, I like and don't like what CU has right now. I LOVE the slanted Buff, slanted CU and slanted wordmarks. Those are perfect. I don't have a problem with the current uni top, aside from it being a little busy. The bottoms are too pale for the helmet. That's the biggest issue.

    What I'd do is scrap the current uni template, go back to the triple stripe on the arms and set the COLORADO font size somewhere between what it is now and what it was in the 80s and 90s. Keep the COLORADO slanted, ditch the piping and the panels on the pants and the dots on the shoulders. That'd be perfect IMO.
     
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    Probably looking for a way to spend the windfall from the Hostess Ho-Ho line item they could eliminate from the budget now that MM is gone....
     
  17. UrbanaBuff

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    We can't compare Kansas, Oregon & CU with the likes of Penn State, Texas & Alabama. The latter teams are elite and they succeed in recruiting on name/tradition alone. People only respect their traditional uniforms because they win. Does anyone care that Rutgers, Kansas State & Boston College have kept their uniforms mostly the same for the past 25 years? No.

    So success breeds more success. But what about when you are not winning and you don't have as much tradition as those schools? Well, you do things to get in the news.... hire new coaches, upgrade your facilities, tweak your uniforms. And guess what, it's working for Kansas... they are getting some legs out of this uniform tweak. People (us) are talking about KU football right now when we otherwise shouldn't be.
     
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    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    ^^^This^^^

    Great post. Rep.

    (Anything short of a scandal that gets you in the news is a good thing for your program. And if you're not one of the super-elites, you need every small edge you can find.)
     
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    You're right. We should compare ourselves to A&M, Auburn, Georgia and UCLA. We have won more MNCs in football in the last 30 years than all of those schools combined. Yet, strangely enough, none of those schools mess with their unis, either.
     
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    A&M has added a white helmet, silver pants, and white pants within at least the last 3 years while Georgia has added a black jersey, black pants, and a black helmet within the last two years. You may not like the new uniforms and all the variations, but I'm sure the players do.
     
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    In case nobody recognized him, that is Gilbert Brown, last seen getting shoved around in the Super Bowl by the Broncos. And that is Dana Stubblefield assisting on the play... Quite a D Line they had there. And those are the Buff Unis I want.
     
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    Here is my idea of what CU should change to and STICK WITH....a mix of new and old school tradition. DO IT

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  23. RuffBuff

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    I changed the stripes on the away jersey...

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    This is kind of a pointless argument, mega-tweaked jerseys never won a single game for Oregon just as Alabama's traditional jerseys never won a single game for them. Either you like periodic tweaks or you don't.
    Generally I don't love the wierd stuff, but I happen to think the Barnett era CU uniforms were the best we ever had and we never would have had them without updating the older versions.
     
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    Who knew Gilbert Brown ate Kid n' Play?

    CU is kinda stuck between traditional unis and constantly changing and tweaking. I think there are only a handful of traditional unis and CU doesn't quite make the cut over the years - kNu, OU, UT, Penn St, Michigan, Ohio St, Alabama, USC, ND and the service academies. Everybody else over the years has made changes.

    I think that CU needs to pick a direction... I would be okay with an Oregon type variety as long as our helmets were gold again. Gold helmets, Black Helmets, Silver Helmets would all be awesome. I am just sick of being a Nike afterthought. We were one of the first Nike schools, now they are more interested in TCU and high schools than us.
     
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    This is the worst idea I have ever heard. If it were true Oregon would be the National Champs every year and have the best recruiting class to go with it. The only reason they change stuff up is to be able to sell something new, that's it.
     
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    The least we could do is get rid of all that stupid italics and bring back the bold text on the jerseys and CU logo. I was pissed when they changed that tradition. This current crap is not my dear old CU!
     
  28. UrbanaBuff

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    I said it HELPS Oregon, it doesn't deliver NC's.

    You must not follow recruiting very closely. I've seen countless quotes from recruits saying that they loved "X school's" uniforms.

    Look, it doesn't matter what we think. It matters what 17-18 year old players think. Guess what? They tend to love the variety, and they usually love Nike/Adidas. In fact, many players will pick a school (more on the basketball side), in part, because of WHO their sponsor is. When a traditional school like Georgia busted out the black shirts, the players loved it...

     
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    Ruffbuff, I know professionals usually don't give up their secrets, but what program do you use to create these uni templates?? I'd love to try it out...
     
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    i use a combination of Illustrator, Photoshop and CorelDraw
     

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