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Key CU Buffs player suspended for the season
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The love hate relationship I have with CU is pretty intense.
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Idot Buff
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Love the new facilities, pretty much hate every ****ing thing else.
Idot Buff
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Likely because you are a massively great guy.....just sayin.
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Yikes.
This will not effect recruiting. I think some OSU are blowing that aspect of it out of proportion. Of course, Our recruiting can't get much worse anyway.
What a joke. Like others have said, any other school in the country and this is a suspension of the first quarter against Hawaii or something. Anyone remember that Florida kid that had a really bad DUI the week of the SEC championship game and he missed like the first series or something. No ****s given.
So hard to support the University that will not support itself. Unfreaking real
cu3x
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You are 100% correct. There is no justice in these internal 'courts'. A bunch of self-righteous asses.
I have been told by an attorney who does a lot of work in the area, that regarding sexual assault claims, universities have, in effect, quotas. If they don't expel a certain number of students per year, they have issues in re federal funding. I told him that was not believable, but he insisted and he is a highly respected, honest man
There just has to be more to the story. I posted this before the charges were dropped but the judicial affairs office is usually reasonable, atleast in my experience. And I don't see how awini and lee were not in trouble at the same time. Who knows. Complete bull**** though.
A few thoughts if I may:
1. As others have observed, only at CU is the level of idiocy this high. It is another obstacle the AD and FB in particular will have to clear that further impairs the rebuilding of the FB team.
2. It remains very difficult for an alum and diehard fan like me to remain engaged. Ten years of crap performance. Repeated absolutely incompetent decisions and policies by the admin.
3. There is a difference between civil and criminal litigation. Both have statutes of limitation beyond which charges (criminal) or claims (civil) cannot be brought. Criminal has the additional safeguard of double jeopardy which only attaches when the first witness is sworn in a trial. Filing charges, dismissing w/o prejudice does not invoke DJ.
4. Topou has to be fuming.
1. As others have observed, only at CU is the level of idiocy this high. It is another obstacle the AD and FB in particular will have to clear that further impairs the rebuilding of the FB team.
2. It remains very difficult for an alum and diehard fan like me to remain engaged. Ten years of crap performance. Repeated absolutely incompetent decisions and policies by the admin.
3. There is a difference between civil and criminal litigation. Both have statutes of limitation beyond which charges (criminal) or claims (civil) cannot be brought. Criminal has the additional safeguard of double jeopardy which only attaches when the first witness is sworn in a trial. Filing charges, dismissing w/o prejudice does not invoke DJ.
4. Topou has to be fuming.
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Johnny Manziel was suspended for the first half of the Rice game two years ago for the alleged autograph incident. This punishment seems about on par with that:rolling_eyes:
Unless there is something more here, it seems like the university wants to make a statement that "violence within our student base will not be tolerated."
I have to wonder what happened to the other kid involved in the fight. Is there any disagreement, especially given his previous incident, that his racist slurs started or accelerated the fight with Tupou? If so, and if he's also not suspended, does that not imply that the university has more tolerance for virulent racism than physical violence? Are they sure they want to take that stance? Perhaps the committee responsible for punishment should be asked these questions In a public forum.
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I have to wonder what happened to the other kid involved in the fight. Is there any disagreement, especially given his previous incident, that his racist slurs started or accelerated the fight with Tupou? If so, and if he's also not suspended, does that not imply that the university has more tolerance for virulent racism than physical violence? Are they sure they want to take that stance? Perhaps the committee responsible for punishment should be asked these questions In a public forum.
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slystone
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1 step forward 3 steps back
--doesn't the "victim" in this case have a history of mouthing off and initiating trouble?
--for the life of me, i cannot understand Boulder's and CU's purported desire to help minorities and then hand down a decision like this
--the Buffs D, very porous last year can ill afford to lose and experienced big time player like Josh
--gillam's chances of playing are thin at best--after sustaining multiple concussions over the last two years and experiencing major headache issues..
--no josh and no gillam...ugly
--what is the difference between josh's deal and the lewis/webb ass whupping/concussing of the Air Force guy?...Webb was on the team after that..
--doesn't the "victim" in this case have a history of mouthing off and initiating trouble?
--for the life of me, i cannot understand Boulder's and CU's purported desire to help minorities and then hand down a decision like this
--the Buffs D, very porous last year can ill afford to lose and experienced big time player like Josh
--gillam's chances of playing are thin at best--after sustaining multiple concussions over the last two years and experiencing major headache issues..
--no josh and no gillam...ugly
--what is the difference between josh's deal and the lewis/webb ass whupping/concussing of the Air Force guy?...Webb was on the team after that..
It may be an issue that the Regents need to get involved with. There is clearly a disproportionate application of the rules in this case. That, in my mind, is cause for the leadership body of the University to step in and investigate why Tupou received a harsher punishment than somebody else in the same situation.
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Any of you donors who know AD/school admin able to reach out to them to get some information on how to fight this? Something needs to be done and I think people here can make a difference if our efforts can be focused in the right way.
In the Post article Plati was asked if there is a chance of this being overturned. He did not say "yes" or "no." Instead, he said, "We have no idea what the future holds." I'd bet there are things going on behind the scenes.
DrunkRalphie
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Seems like there has to be more to the story here.
walk
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I'm just speculating and have no information, but maybe witnesses and/or victim refused to cooperate in the criminal matter. However, the judicial affairs required that they provide information to them, including Josh providing his account, and with that information, judicial affairs may have determined that a 325 pound man knocked over a fence and pounded an individual 150 pounds lighter than him in the face. Maybe that is not acceptable to the CU community even if it was a star football player?
But throwing out racial slurs is? If you're gonna throw a racial slur at someone, you best be ready for a fight.
This isn't the first time the kid had gotten his ass beat for running his mouth either.
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walk
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I absolutely against racial slurs and if racial slurs were used, I'd think those individual would be disciplined as well and maybe they were.