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Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by jcatcher, Jun 18, 2012.

  1. jcatcher

    jcatcher Club Member Club Member

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    The #1 ranked kicker in high school is Daniel Carlson from the Springs (Classical Academy). He has offers from Auburn and LSU (and Air Force) but his profile shows no contact with CU. Will Oliver, while a freshman, was below average last year, missing four kicks from less than 40 yards. Any reason why CU is not in on this guy? He's kicked a 68-yarder.
     
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  2. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    Right under our noses???
     
  3. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    I believe we have 4 kickers on scholly and currently are dealing with a small class. ****** timing.
     
  4. btbuff

    btbuff It's an inside joke Club Member

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    I believe our kickers can improve.
     
  5. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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    I've learned to prepare for repeated "kicks" to the groin.
     
  6. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I believe if you can get a difference maker at kicker, you get him. I know we have a lot of guys on scholarship right now that probably shouldn't be, but you don't pass up the next Mason Crosby just because you have too many (average at best) kickers on your roster already.
     
  7. jcatcher

    jcatcher Club Member Club Member

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    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Oliver's stats:
    YEARTEAMFGMFGAPCT1-1920-2930-3940-4950+LNGXPMXPAPTS
    2011
    111668.80-03-53-54-51-152293162

    He had a slump midway through the season, but had started off strong. He did have quite a few blocked I think because he kicks low as well. 68 yards is impressive, but I'm not impressed by anyone's leg strength much anymore and care more about what's between the ears. If we are kicking 50+ yard field goals this year regularly it's going to be a long year anyway.

    Still sucks about the timing though and the #s we have to give out this year on scholarship. I'd fix our punting if I could fix anything about our ST game right now.
     
  9. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    We absolutely cannot put another kicker on scholarship.
     
  10. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I'm always amazed at this attitude. Tell me, which player scores the most points on a football team? I know kickers are little geeks and not considered "real" football players, but they are often the difference between winning and losing. If you can get a true difference maker at kicker, you get him. Let the chips fall where they may.
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    And the deviation you have in points scored with an average kicker to an all-conference performer is minimal.
     
  12. Buff_since76

    Buff_since76 Still a fan... Club Member

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    I just want to know one thing: Is super kicker able to kick with both feet??? If no, then we pass.
     
  13. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Perhaps, but that deviation is usually made up of some pretty important points. Having an elite kicker allows you to be much more flexible with your gameplan. You don't have to worry about punting or going for it when you stall out on the 40 yard line. How many games are decided on the foot of the kicker? A lot are. We beat West Virginia because their kicker sucked (that day). We beat Oklahoma because our kicker didn't (that day). We're in the situation we're in right now because Hawkins was an incompetent moron who did not appreciate the importance of the kicking game.

    Understand that I would only go after this kid if he's a truly elite kicker. Just putting him on the roster to add competition would be stupid. But you don't pass up on the next Mason Crosby because your roster is too full of kickers already.
     
  14. jcatcher

    jcatcher Club Member Club Member

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    I once lost a five team parlay bet when McCartney sent a kicker home from a bowl trip after he broke some rule. CU missed three extra points in the game.*

    Don't tell me kickers aren't important! Cost me about $600.

    * OK, I just looked it up. It was the 1993 Fiesta Bowl. Punter Mitch Berger was doing the kicking and he missed two extra points and a field goal. Five points in a 26-22 loss to Syracuse. I don't remember who the regular kicker was.
     
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  15. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    A kicker isn't a game changer for us when we lose games by 15+ on average.
     
  16. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Is it 5 or six schollies? I forget.
     
  17. BuffClass90

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    I look forward to the day a kicker matters to us again.
     
  18. 13Buff

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    I would love to have another Mason Crosby, but when he was the best player on the team, we all should have known that we were about to come on very hard times.
     
  19. sackman

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    Yeah, I can't think of a game last year where having a great kicker would have been the difference between winning and losing. Only Cal and WSU were close, and neither came down to a kick or missed kick. Still, if you can get one, I think you owe it to the program to get an elite kicker. They're very rare. I'm sure the folks at Utah wish they had a better kicker. Probably at Stanford, too.
     
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    How much $ is Oregon offering?
     
  21. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    I get what you're saying but having six scholarship kickers is too much.
     
  22. liverflukes

    liverflukes Resident Bear Club Member

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    What's wrong with Oliver? I thought he had a solid year. He was only a freshman.
     
  24. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Started off encouraging enough, but once teams realized he was getting 3 feet of lift on his kicks, the block party was on. He may be a good one for us, but it got rough for a while there last season after the bright start.
     
  25. BuffHerd

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    Offer him. No kicking worries for six years and someone to push Oliver.
     
  26. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

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    Our kicking is still pretty suspect. Oliver was a little better and our punter was a little better, but still not good. In the near term I am more worried about getting a good punter than kicker. We need every advantage in the field position battle.

    Although if we are ever competitive again, we will need a good kicker. A good kicker is just too much of a weapon at altitude. Adds to home team advantage.

    I believe we should be able to recruit the best of the best in punting and kicking with the altitude advantage. Our kicking should always be above average. D2 really understood the value of field position and kicking.
     
  27. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Club Member Club Member

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    Somewhere, AJ's ears are burning...
     
  28. Tatonka

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  29. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Having five crappy scholarship kickers is too much. Having one elite kicker and five crappy kickers is unfortunate, but acceptable.
     
  30. skibum

    skibum Peed in your Cheerios. Club Member

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    I'm with sacky on this one. I tend to think you don't turn down the consensus number one player at any position, regardless of scholarship numbers - especially if a lot of people think he's not just the best this year, but probably the best over the last/next several years.
     

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