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Leaving for a play after your helmet comes off

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Quattro, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    How does this help with player safety? Can't think of a reason.
     
  2. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    I think too many players did not buckle chin straps or wore them so loose that there was a preponderance of helmets flying off. I think it's more penalizing a player than protecting them.
     
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  3. fwbuff

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    Convinces players to actually buckle their chinstraps up, so their helmet doesn't come off so easy during play. Also may give trainers a quick chance to make sure a guy is good to go while he is on the sideline.
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Players aren't strapping them on tight enough. I played from 3rd grade through college. About a dozen years and can't remember my helmet coming off on the field (game or practice). The helmets don't perform to their designed safety specs if they're not worn correctly.
     
  5. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Agreed on this one 100% but I don't see the trainers fixing the helmets on the sideline so it seems like a pointless rule that hasn't fixed the helmets coming off.
     
  6. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Agreed on this one 100% but I don't see the trainers fixing the helmets on the sideline so it seems like a pointless rule that hasn't fixed the helmets coming off, or at least so far
     
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    Umm, you have to actually hit someone. Duh.
     
  8. FlaBuff

    FlaBuff I drive a Dodge Stratus! Club Member

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    I never had a helmet come off either, but these Revo Speeds and other new stlye helmets are different than what I wore. They buckle the chinstrap at different angles. They are better concussion protection but not if they aren't on the players heads.
     
  9. BuffaloChuck

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    Get rid of helmets and pads entirely. Guys would end up with only one concussion that way, instead of "a thousand hits a game".
     
  10. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    There's a good rationale for going to the soft shell helmets. I'm opposed, but maybe because it just seems weird and old-timey to me. I'm not sure how much it would actually change the game. My biggest concern would be players being able to protect their faces. It could get nasty in the trenches.
     
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    CanadianDuck Well-Known Member

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    I have noticed a lot of players trying to take advantage of this rule by pulling off an opposing players helmet. I like the rule as it encourages the players to put the helmet on properly.
     
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    The caveat to the rule is - if your helmet comes off because another player pulled it off, you don't have to come out.
     
  13. josef

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    The helmets that you wear in games are only worn on game days. It is completely possible that it is not fitted 100% perfectly. You dont hit enough in pregame to really knock a helmet off. Being that you need a screw driver to adjust most of these helmets making players come off to get it addressed by the equipment guys makes total sense. I played football for a long time and saw lots of helmets come off for various reasons. You definitely see them coming off more on game days than throughout the week for the reasons that I listed above. This rule does make sense.
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    The helmets are air controller so all you need is a pump. The helmets are fitted, but not at the level that will help reduce concussions but rather to the comfort level of the player. Chin straps are relatively easy to adjust as well so I'm not sure I buy the "it's hard to fix how the helmets fit" reason.
     
  15. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Good point, but I would imagine they take the time to get these gameday helmets pretty well fitted. The main issue is guys just aren't using the straps properly. I mean, all you have to do is look at any given time and skill players especially just aren't properly snapped in. It's the "cool" factor.
     
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    josef Club Member Club Member

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    The air is controlled with a hand pump. Most of our helmets have chin straps that are adjusted with a screw driver at the temples. Neither of these can be adjusted by players. You are always chasing air adjustments in the helmets because the bladders bleed eventually.
     
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    Game helmets are fitted the same as practice helments when you first get them. The difference is that practice helments are constantly being adjusted at practice while the game helmets collect dust. If you dont make an effort to seek out an equipment guy then its not going to get fixed. Hopefully it doesnt take these guys getting there helmets knocked off more than once to get the problem fixed. It is possible that looking cool could be part of this but I dont think it plays a huge role. Truth is most of the players dont know when their helmet is fitted properly or not.
     
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    Bleeding bladders?? wtf - we were talking about helmets
     
  19. CVilleBuff

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    Even a great fitting helmet isn't going to function 100% if you leave 2 straps undone. Check the receivers, etc on Saturday
     
  20. 14er

    14er “Imitation is suicide.” -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    We had water/gel filled bladders in the 80's and had a friend get a concussion on a cold day because his bladders froze. True story.
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Some chinstraps need to be adjusted , but most I are just the normal clip on ones. I understand that the helmet bladders leak, but how often do you see a trainer come over and fix it after they have to leave? This just seems like a pointless rule with good intentions but is executed poorly.
     
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    ok I dont care... I cant believe this is a two page thread. The rule is stupid and we should be 4-0.
     

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