Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by boydbuff, Aug 2, 2013.
So was Dan Hawkins.
So one example over eight years? Embree was given a D+ by the way.
wait, you're in wait and see mode? where did i read that before?
Truer words were never spoken. :lol:
****ing grade inflation.
Wouldn't that make for 2? Embree wasn't even close to earning a D+
Consistency is the key to success.
He seemed to like pretty much every offseason hire.
Mac is a great hire. We got very lucky that we backed into him.
I liked the Embree hire and hated the Hawk hire. I'll reserve judgment till at least 9/2.
Much better than Foodcart...IMO...
No. You asserted that this lists don't matter because Dan Hawkins was considered a good hire and he spun out big time here. I asserted that these lists are reasonably accurate in their grades and that one example (Hawkins) does not indicate any kind of trend or inaccuracies, just outside examples and followed that up by using Embree as a example (would have added more but I'm on my phone) who received a bad grade and was awful here.
and embo one of the worst, so, um yeah, we'll have to wait and see.
So you think Embree earned a D+? I'm thinking he was well into F- territory given my understanding of Academia, thus two bad predictions. These lists are typically accurate? Which ones? There are probably 100 different lists from 100 different sources every year and they are all over the place. I'm not going to do the research but I can pretty much guarantee you that each year almost every coach got a "good" grade from one of the Good Coaching Hire lists.
I am the opposite, liked Hawk and hated Embree.
I was a Barnett fan. I've since changed my mind on Barnett but I hated Hawk when we hired him. I liked Hawk in 2007 but that didn't last long.
I thought we were only talking about when they were initially hired.
We were. I was just explaining my process. There are posts of mine on here defending Hawk and I was trying to preemptively answer that if anyone even remembers my stance on hawk.
I might have even defended Embree a time or two.
Hated embree from the moment it went down, liked the Hawk hire.
From what we know so far, I agree with this.
How is your assertion that the lists are accurate based on one example any better than buffedup's assertion that they are not accurate based on one example?
FWIW the Rivals MB seems all in on Foodcart, Tennessee fans are convinced they got a gem
I was certainly excited about Foodcart b/c he was a "splashy" hire. But in retrospect, I am quite happy we got HCMM. As many others have said, HCMM has proven capable of doing a massive turnaround, whereas Foodcart has a tendency of succeeding by following success from a prior HC. Big difference.
You know their are a lot less D+'s than D-'s. It's not a grade they like to hand out.
I'll tell you that!
Love that quote.
If he finishes at the bottom of the SEC East (likely) and loses to Alabama/Florida (likely), things will turn sour.
Won't be breaking through in SEC anytime soon, IMO. Tennessee has their disadvantages sitting in a state with little talent compared to their neighbors, and there's only so many legacy commits out there.
As for us, his lack of rebuilding experience wouldn't have been an ideal fit.
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