drmike
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Yes but at this point in my life I would like to keep my license and sleep indoors.
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Mac has a n open letter to be read on air...
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Yes but at this point in my life I would like to keep my license and sleep indoors.
SuperiorBuff
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No he didn't. Mac was a great coach, but we had success far prior to him coming.
I'm starting to wonder if it's not. If it rachets up the pressure on the admin to invest in football, I would agree that it is good.
:nod:
If I can get my "Open Letters" published in the media that I use, Mac can certainly have his "Open Letter" read in his media of choice.
I hope those that are upset about this are worrying about him doing something do divide instead of to help heal. I hope for the same - healing. But he's entitled to speak his mind.
Or maybe you're worried that he'll say something else that will tarnish your image of him. It's his image to do with what he wants. Not ours.
I'll wait to hear him speak and cross my fingers. Respectfully. He's hurting, guys.
77buff
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Mac was a great coach, but it's time for him to step aside - he's no Bill Snyder. The program will be better off without his input.
I hope it's positive...
If not...
WTF? Is this Festivus and the airing of grievances?
Let it go Mac!!
If not...
WTF? Is this Festivus and the airing of grievances?
Let it go Mac!!
I starting to feel the same way. I'm not going to listen.
All x-players and x-coaches are furious at Bohn for getting rid of JE and the staff (some with deep ties to CU). They feel slighted and their just trying to embarrass Bohn, but instead, they're making themselves and CU as a whole look like arses.
I myself have ties to the athletic department. I myself wanted to give Embo 1 more year. But crying about it isn't going to change anything. Move on, forgive, forget, whatever. This may turn into a way bigger circus than it's already become.
All x-players and x-coaches are furious at Bohn for getting rid of JE and the staff (some with deep ties to CU). They feel slighted and their just trying to embarrass Bohn, but instead, they're making themselves and CU as a whole look like arses.
I myself have ties to the athletic department. I myself wanted to give Embo 1 more year. But crying about it isn't going to change anything. Move on, forgive, forget, whatever. This may turn into a way bigger circus than it's already become.
I hope it's positive...
If not...
WTF? Is this Festivus and the airing of grievances?
Let it go Mac!!
But they always seem to ignore the feats of strength.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
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I've got no problem with him being upset. I've got no problem with him thinking that Embree wasn't given enough time. He can certainly come out and express his feelings on those matters, without complaint from me.
But I don't think it helps anyone at this point to bash the athletic department, to say negative things about Bohn, Distephano, etc.
I would think that EVERYONE associated with or a fan of CU athletics would want to move FORWARD and see this program SUCCEED regardless of who is the head coach. Nothing McCartney says in his letter is going to give Embree his job back. Now is the time for everyone associated with CU to start trying to move forward to be a better athletic department, and a better football program.
But I don't think it helps anyone at this point to bash the athletic department, to say negative things about Bohn, Distephano, etc.
I would think that EVERYONE associated with or a fan of CU athletics would want to move FORWARD and see this program SUCCEED regardless of who is the head coach. Nothing McCartney says in his letter is going to give Embree his job back. Now is the time for everyone associated with CU to start trying to move forward to be a better athletic department, and a better football program.
At what point in your life do you envision that changing?
I guess I am worried most about an agenda that is very devicive. He has the right to talk about the situation and express his displeasure, but at some point we need to stop all of the tearing the AD/Admin apart. I am hoping that if he goes down this road, he at least gives some credence to the shortcomings of Jon Embree and his lack of performance in many areas.
I applaude anyone who will advocate for the changes in the organization that will improve the program overall, there are many that need to accompany the changing of the coach for this next move to be successful. I am just afraid that we will not get that and we will hear more spewing of lies in an effort to accomplish a different agenda.
I'm finally moving on from all this. Embree is gone, Bohn gets his last chance to hire a football coach, and we have hope for next season. I've gotten way too worked up over everything the past couple days. Media people are going to say what they're gong to say
I am ok with anything he says, as long as the campaign to fire Bohn is also a campaign to let a new AD come in who's hire is not in any way directed by the former players and coaches. We've seen that this model doesn't work well and regardless of whether he stays or goes the personal attachment to one individual over the result on the field has got to end. I can't listen - but hope there is a change to the tone of the past 30 some hours, I don't expect that there will be, but I hope.....
I still don't see all the negativity to Bohn. I have said it enough in enough threads that I'm not going to repeat it again here but he's presided over some major improvements at CU, hired Hawk who the whole world thought was a slam dunk and was "forced" to hire JE due to powerful interests and lack of funding.
Let's judge him on this hire.
Let's judge him on this hire.
Lionel Bienvenu @lionelbienvenu Coach Bill McCartney, in an open letter, regarding firing of Jon Embree: "Men and women of Colorado, don't let this happen. This is wrong."
Lionel Bienvenu @lionelbienvenu
More Coach Macon firing of Jon Embree: "It undermines the values of the university. Please stand up and be counted."
Lionel Bienvenu @lionelbienvenu
and finally, Coach Mac on Embree firing: "To short-circuit a 5-year contract before 2 full years in an indictment of true integrity."
Lionel Bienvenu @lionelbienvenu
More Coach Macon firing of Jon Embree: "It undermines the values of the university. Please stand up and be counted."
Lionel Bienvenu @lionelbienvenu
and finally, Coach Mac on Embree firing: "To short-circuit a 5-year contract before 2 full years in an indictment of true integrity."
NOt yet. at 4:30
Exactly. I can't quite shake the feeling that their endgame here includes Mac taking over as AD..... :huh:
Embree being fired (and paid) by CU 3 years early = undermines the value of the university. Indictment of true integrity.
Mac quitting CU years early on his contract = ??
If this is the case, Coach Mac will be permanently disconnected from the Univ. of Colorado. Embree is done and it is over.
Thanks. I am in Argentina and I thought it was almost 5:30 there.
I have a feeling that Mac won't be coming to the luncheons as a guest speaker next year..
Where does letting your DC and LB coach fall on the sword as scapegoats land on a scale of 1 to true integrity?