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Mike Moser To Washington

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Goose, Apr 5, 2013.

  1. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    HUGE transfer for the Dawgs. They have to be thrilled. It's a grad school transfer so he'll be eligible to play next year. Both he & Nigel Williams-Goss (2014 PG recruit) will give them a serious talent influx.

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  2. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Isn't moser the guy that was supposed to be the big matchup with Dre in last year's tourney game? And didn't Dre stomp all over him?
     
  3. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    id like to have moser here... just saying
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    UCLA to UNLV to UDub.

    Makes me wonder about this guy. He was a better player in 2011-12 than in 2012-13, too. Talented player, but Romar's had trouble getting talent to gel in recent years. Maybe too many "mercenary" type players being brought in?
     
  5. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Romar is gearing up for a last stand. We'll see if it gels
     
  6. Buffenuf

    Buffenuf massive tool

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    :yeahthat: Romar can recruit. Coach? Not so much....... as the Dawgs have learned.
     
  7. Medford M.

    Medford M. Well-Known Member

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    Had some kind of a nagging injury all year. Reinhardt and Bennett also took away a lot of his shots.
     
  8. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    Dont fully agree. The guy had 24 or more wins 6 times in 11 years in Washington. Won the conference tournament 3 times and regular season twice.

    On the other hand. I don't think he never made it past the sweet sixteen
     
  9. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I don't profess to be an expert on Romar, but he does strike me as more of a recruiter than an x's and o's guy. The heat is on for him. Things are getting a bit "stale" with Husky basketball, and if they have a 3rd straight season without an NCAA Tournament appearance, they may very well decide it's time for a change.

    Previous to getting the job at Washington he was an assistant at UCLA for 5 years in the early to mid 90's. He then was HC at Pepperdine and improved them from 6 wins to 19 wins and an NIT appearance in his 3 years there. Then he took over at Saint Louis, where he coached for 3 seasons and actually declined every year in his 3 seasons, falling from 19 wins his first year to a sub.-500 15 win season in '01/'02 when Washington then hired him as HC. He took over a struggling Husky program, won 10 games his first year, but had them at 29 wins and in the Sweet 16 by year 3. This isn't the first "slump" he's had though, as they struggled in '06/07 and '07/'08 (no post season, sub.500 conference records, losing record overall '07/'08). Then he picked them back up again with 3 straight Dances from '09-'11. Personally, I can't escape the feeling that things might be sliding the wrong way under Romar. Obviously bringing in a quick fix like Moser should be a solid boost, but it all depends on how well they gel...and frankly, getting teams to gel and reach their cohesive potential has not been Romar's strong point as a coach. This is a very, very critical year coming up for Washington basketball. The pressure is on, deservedly or not.
     
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  10. DesertDawg526

    DesertDawg526 Resident Dawg Club Member

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    Not worried about Romar at all.

    I know a lot of Husky fans are worried, but UW will never be a Top tier program despite the fans acting like it too much. UW simply cannot continue to lose underclassmen to the NBA and maintain depth. Not many schools can though. Romar is what he is. The highest character type of person, mentor and coach (he doesn't play by the AAU rules). He is a solid recruiter and solid coach who develops players with an extensive track record of placing kids in the NBA. UW likely won't win a national title, but they will be competing yearly for Pac titles and Dance tickets as long as Romar is coach.

    Romar has a job for life at UW, I really believe it and hope he retires in Seattle. The only place I see him leaving for is the NBA at this point.

    Romar is a victim of his success. He has averaged putting one player into the NBA per year or more over the past 10 years, and UW is losing underclassmen to the NBA at an increasing rate under his coaching (think Isaiah Thomas, Tony Wroten and Terrence Ross the past two years). CJ Wilcox may or may not leave early this year, and his return could go a long way toward determing how good next year's squad can be. I think it will certainly have more talent, though also more youth. Not sure which will prevail.

    Romar's teams characteristically are high energy, high tempo with tenacious defense and scrappiness. I haven't seen it the past two years and that makes me think we'll see it again soon. I think with the incoming players you see that. UW has 2-3 outstanding guards coming in (Nigel Williams-Goss, Darin Johnson and Jahmel Taylor). Add in a more experienced Andrew Andrews and over the next few years you have a great group of guards again with depth, which is Romar's forte.

    The last two years never synced for some reason, but it is no reason to give up hope on Romar. Next year F Perris Blackwell is eligible (sat out a year after San Fran transfer). Add in a couple other transfers (Mike Anderson, Giles Dierickx) and possibly Moser, though I have not seen him confirmed at this point, and UW will regain some needed depth.

    Romar's biggest coaching gaffe IMO was when UW was leading UConn with seconds left in the Sweet 16 a few years ago and we did not foul, allowing them to get off a 3 point play which sent it to OT and an eventual loss. Otherwise UW had a great chance to go to the Final Four that year.

    Anyway, sleep on Romar if you will. Don't be surprised if he continues to have UW in the Dance 60-70% of the time or more with squads capable of deeper runs along the way. UW has won a share of 4/5 of the past Pac-conference titles (regular season or tourney, including this year's bust). Anybody thinking UW is becoming a patsy will likely be surprised. I think we'll continue to see UW as a regular Top 3 or 4 team in the Pac under Romar. Not always, but usually. He's the best coach UW has ever had, and I've seen no reason to consider his job in jeopardy at this point.

    It's a wee bit too early to give up on him, at least IMO...
     
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  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I think the biggest thing to watch with Romar is how this switch to a high-post offense works out. He's changing style. I think his future employment is decided by whether or not it's a change for the better.
     
  12. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I have to give Romar credit for this. Most coaches won't change horses in midstream. The fact that Romar was willing to admit something was broken AND go outside to get help on it really speaks volumes.

    As for next year, with the great guard play they have plus Moser, I think they're a top 4 team right now in the Pac.
     
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    I hate to break it to you, but he needs some work to do if he wants to get to that 60% floor you set. He is 6/11 right now (54.5%) and even if he goes next year he is 7/12 (58.33%). If he fails next year, then you can do the math.
     
  14. DesertDawg526

    DesertDawg526 Resident Dawg Club Member

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    I'm not going to split hairs over roughly 5%:thumbsup:

    When CU entered the Pac, Romar was at 6/9 or 67.666% and now he's below 60% after two *odd* years of his tenure. At year 10 he was 60% (would have been 70% if the Pac regular season conference winner was invited). The odds are not that far off, and to be technical I know they change yearly. In general, the expectation for Romar I think should be around 60-70% since that is what he established in the first decade of his coaching at UW. Oh well. I could see UW missing the dance again next year, and then going to several consecutive ones again.

    If Romar is making the dance more years than not, then he will continue to be fine. If UW goes a decade without dancing, as commonly happened before he came to UW, then I could see some issues.

    I'm looking at where UW was, where UW is now and where UW is heading. Big-picture, Romar is the best thing to happen to UW basketball since Hec Edmundson.

    Again, I'm not seeing anything big-picture to be worried about at this point.

    Yes, UW has a lot to prove, and the Pac is getting deeper, but they are once again getting the guys with a chip on their shoulder that thrive in his system. Those players have been utterly absent the past two seasons.
     
  15. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    I could see Udub finishing 3rd in the PAC next year behind us and Arizona.
     
  16. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Now it sounds like Moser isn't solid to UW and Oregon is gaining ground. I've also heard some rumors that Zona is after him.
     
  17. jwhite17

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    I hope this doesn't happen because Altman is totally exploiting the rule, and I really hate Oregon for using this transfer rule every year under him.

    I never seen a coach use so many transfers at a D1 basketball school. He definitely knows how to coach them up, but I want ALtman actually have to coach up frosh/sophomore bigs instead of getting lucky and finding one year impact rentals each year.

    It is much easier to coach a guy that has been playing D1 for three-four years than a true frosh or sophomore.

    That's why I respect Boyle. He actually can coach his young players up and doesn't rely on this rule to benefit from.
     
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  18. jgisland

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    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    go Zags!
     
  20. mattrob

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    I'm not a fan of Altman's reliance on transfers either, but as long as the rule is in place, it's hard to fault him. It will bite him soon enough though; there just aren't enough quality transfers to be confident you're going to land one every year.

    What's harder for me to understand is the appeal for some of these kids. I don't know if the basketball team is living off of the football team's brand or what, but I just don't view Oregon as the powerhouse program that a lot of recruits (and national writers) seem to see them as.
     
  21. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    On the "coolness" scales of current teenagers: Nike >>>>>>> Blowjobs
     
  22. mattrob

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    And this reminds me why I'm glad I'm not a teenager anymore.:thumbsup:

    It also starts a whole other argument about the NCAA turning a blind eye to the relationships some schools have with the apparel companies that skirt the booster rules.

    Even as an 18 year old, I don't think I have would've selected a college based on their uniforms, which may be why I don't understand the Oregon love.
     

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