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Miller moving back to tackle -- and discussion of Givens' situation

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  1. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I have not read all the treads down below, so if someone else brought it up already, I apologise. Ryans faceboock has 'back to tackle' up on it, so apparently he is moving back from guard.
     
  2. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    So who is moving to guard? Givens or someone else?
     
  3. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    As of yesterday's depth chart, Miller is still at guard. I'd be interested to know what is up.
     
  4. Buttermaker

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    I think Givens is going to assume a position that resembles last year. He has had a rough couple games. I would imagine we will see a line that looks like last year - pre injuries. Soldier - Adkins - Illtis - Behrens - Miller

    Look for MTM to get in the mix at Guard soon I would imagin.
     
  5. MtnBuff

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Givens is very talented but got beat like a drum two straight games. Didn't make his blocks, had some dumb penalties. This move may not be permanent but it makes some sense right now.
     
  6. Buffarino

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Givens has graded out better than Adkins. And tackle is harder to play than guard.
     
  7. Hi.O

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Maybe he's taking Solder's spot, he didn't look too great either
     
  8. Buffnik

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    I wouldn't be too surprised to see Solder-Bahr-Iltis-Behrens-Miller.
     
  9. Buff fanatic

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Good move, IMO.
     
  10. JimmyBuff

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    I would be in favor of that..


    I don't care what the ratings these goofy coaches come up with, I've been watching football for years and I can clearly see that Adkins and Givens have no business right now starting on the OL at this time.. They aren't ready..


    I still don't understand how BB lost his OL job.
     
  11. aik

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    How's Bahr's health? He wasn't dressed fully in fall practice and I don't believe he's played yet this season.
     
  12. dio

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    This is a great move. Miller looked good playing tackle many times last season, and I was surprised they moved him inside so quickly.
     
  13. El Gringo

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Givens didn't play bad enough to get benched. He did have a couple of penalties, including that bull**** holding call on A. Wright's long catch. If Beherns has practiced his way into the starting lineup, I'd think he would replace Atkins, who has graded out lowest of the line. this is a curious change if true.
     
  14. CUwhit21

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Givens hasn't been scoring much better then Adkins.

    I think it'll help to have someone in there who has a little more experience at OG then Miller or Adkins.
     
  15. Dorn09

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    is there a link?
     
  16. Buffarino

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Depends on how you define 'much better'. Givens has allowed 1 sack while playing a tougher position. Adkins has allowed 3. Givens has graded out above 80% in both games this year. Adkins has been below 80% for both games.

    Sure, not huge differences, but I think Givens has done enough to stay in the lineup over Adkins. I would think if anyone on the starting OL would get yanked it would be Adkins.
     
  17. Buffnik

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    What may have gotten Givens into trouble with this coaching staff is that he plays pissed off and he's lost it a couple times this year.
     
  18. Hugegroove

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    That is a disipline thing that needs to get corrected soon. If he can't control his emotions any better than that he will continue to cost the team in more ways than one.
     
  19. Darth Snow

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    :sad1: ... I don't like this move.
     
  20. JimmyBuff

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    Why? Givens is awful at tackle.. He's not ready to play the position yet.
     
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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    That would be a good reason to make the move.
     
  22. SanDiegoBuff

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    There are rumors coming from Rivals that Givens isn't with the team for personal reasons. I just received a text, as did another poster on another board, so since they're texting it out, I don't have a problem reposting it.
     
  23. LABuffalo

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    Givens also held on a long D. Scott's run. Denver Johnson moved Miller to guard to "toughen up the guard position." Now what's he doing? Toughening up the tackle position? But in fairness, no one is looking that tough.
     
  24. Darth Snow

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    :cry:

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  25. JimmyBuff

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    Isn't Bahr hurt? I actually thought he was going to be the starting right tackle this year..


    I was kind of surprised Givens was named the starter since I believe he was only 250 in weight last year..
     
  26. buffsyko

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    Yes, God forbid if any or our players actually get pissed or show emotion. I don't want him costing cu penalties but if this staff doesn't like players who play pissed, they should all go coach pee-wee football.

    They want players to give the DL flowers before the play...
     
  27. buffsyko

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    Except I was wrong. :smile:

    I just hope that his personal issue isn't something tragic. Not knowing what's going on, all I'll say is that I wish him the best.
     
  29. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    Re: Miller moving back to tackle

    did he leave the team or is he taking a leave
     
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  30. buffsyko

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    Same here.
     

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