Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Jens1893, Oct 4, 2011.
Can you say Big 12-2-1-1
I would say with the resignation they are all but gone and the SEC is going to go to 16. We may be seeing the whole drama re-start sooner rather than later.
I wouldn´t read too much into the resignation. He can´t serve 2 masters at a time. In his day job he has to do what´s best for Mizzou and the regents did tell him to look around and see what kind of deal he can get and in his other job he has to do what´s best for the Big 12 and try to keep it together. Doesn´t mix.
Maybe, but if you are loyal to the conference you would want to keep that post in the conference office. My guess is they are out of there.
Start up the merry-go-round. Again....
My take as well. If they were looking to stay, they would want all the influence you can have on the BOD when it comes to keeping UT and OU in check.
Good for Mizzou!!!!
god damnit mizzery
It is fun to see the Big 12 go down the toilet, but I also don't want Texas anywhere near the Pac. So most definitely a catch-22 here.
Apparently this was the last straw for mandel...
Will this start up OU and OU-lite to the PAC again?
Mizzou does not want to be cellar-dwellar of a new conference.
This is smoke...
So Missouri hasn't won a conference title since 1969 and never won the North division outright even in their best years, why would they want to go to a conference like the SEC? Looks like Vandy will have a new playmate at the bottom.
Missouri-Kansas to Big Ten
Texas-Oklahoma to Pac-12
West Virginia to SEC
K-State, I-State, O-State, T-Tech, and Baylor merge with Big East along with East Carolina. The Big 12 schools + TCU form the Central Division, with the Big East schools + ECU forming the Eastern.
The 5 major BCS conferences halt the superconferences at 14 team each.
Big East survives as a BCS conference with the Big 12 leftovers, Notre Dame/BYU remain independent.
Big 12 essentially dies.
Big Ten can now realign and use division names that aren't dumb.
Pac-12 uses zipper format for divisions of 7 teams with "protected rivalry" games in cross-division games and the "Cali-compromise" that ensures CA schools always play each other every year.
MWC and C-USA form a partnership to gain a 7th BCS auto-bid for their "champion vs champion" matchup. UTEP and Utah State move to MWC. C-USA invites Navy and Army into the East; and moves Memphis into the Western Division.
Now, all service academies and "BCS Busters" have "BCS access".
Cotton Bowl will gain BCS inclusion, with the dropping of the double-hosting model, spreading the 5 games across 5 bowls and rotating the NC game.
And Scotty's one of the more realistic contributors to Bleacher Report. :smile2:
Most likely they are using this as leverage to gain TV rights concessions like OU did.
What nobody knows about is that the Sooners were trying to put together a Sooner network (like LHN) for a year or two. I believe that they successfully used the Pac-12 interest to get that deal done and we will see news come out in 3-6 months about them launching a network in the near future. I do think that it will be a combo network along with Okie State, so it won't be SoonerNetwork but more like OKSports.
I think Mizzou is pushing for the same type of thing and could partner with KU and KSU (and maybe Iowa State too) to have a regional network that covers STL, KC, Wichita, Des Moines, etc and kick in some extra cash for their 3rd tier rights.
That would leave Tech and Baylor scrambling for something similar and then there is the question of expansion with a 10th team. I think that is where TCU comes in. Tech-TCU-Baylor could put together a solid little regional network between the three of them. Houston or SMU wouldn't be that big of draws. And politicians might force TCU onto the Big 12 as team #10, hoping (with good reason) that would make Houston a good candidate for Big East expansion, thus ensuring the state of Texas GAINS one more "BCS AQ" school through this whole process, and possibly two if SMU also joins them.
haha. just spit-balling
I think it's been public info that OU has already spent $5mm in startup costs for their own network. What I don't think anyone recognized until now was that a small focus (1 or 2 schools) 24/7 cable channel isn't economic. There are no economies of scale in a business that has a decent slug of fixed costs. Everybody babbles "Longhorn Network, Longhorn Network...", but that is a business that is burning operating costs of $26 mm per year and has essentially zero revenues and has very little prospect of increasing its revenues for years to come. It's no wonder that neither ESPN, Fox or anyone else has jumped at the chance to duplicate those results by partnering with OU.
Texass lucked out with its ESPN/Longhorn contract. They are like the *.com entrepeneur that sold their zero revenue business to a venture capitalist for a buttload of money and will now watch somewhat wistfully as the business spins into the ground.
I don't think WV would be a good fit for the SEC. MU would be much better.
Gotta lock down that Ames TV demographic before making any kind of move. Once that golden goose is tied up, then the conference dominos start falling.
I don't know why MU would want any part of the SEC.
They have no cultural connection, and they'll be perpetual doormats.
Why on earth would someone trade two programs you'll never be able to compete with for 8?
They should wait on the B1G
SEC would give them stability & $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I'm not sure the Big 10 wants them.
I think the conference cultural connections are somewhat overplayed. For example, does anyone think U. Maryland (DC Metro area) has anything in common with, say, Clemson or Wake Forest? Yet, the ACC seems to operating fine so far. Further, Missouri is a more of redneck state than everyone here is giving them credit for. They'll fit fine in the SEC, assuming they actually get an offer and accept.
Wasn't 'zurah part of the Confederacy or at least fight for the south?
Actually I think Mizzou has a lot in common with the SEC schools. I think Mizzou and Arkansas have a lot of connections. Putting Mizzou and Texas A&M into the SEC West makes a lot of sense, imo.
The state of Missouri borders three SEC states, three BiG states, and three Big 12 states. They'd fit in anywhere they wanted to go.
Mizzou to the PAC-12!!!!
Chippy says Mizz tried to get UT to agree to not show highschool games on the Bevo network, and UT said no. At that point, Mizz BOR voted for conference change.
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