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NCAA rule changes:

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Bone Buff, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. Bone Buff

    Bone Buff Well-Known Member

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    source: http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories/2008/02/13/ncaaburst_0213.html

    Discuss.

    • A coach will get an extra instant replay challenge if his first one is upheld. Under the old rule the coach had only one challenge whether he was right or wrong. Under the new rule the coach, if he's right, will get one extra challenge, but no more.

    • If a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team will have the option of taking the ball on its own 40-yard line. The previous rule gave the receiving team the ball on the 35-yard line.

    • The incidental five-yard facemask penalty will be eliminated. Only the 15-yard facemask penalties will be called.

    • A "horse collar" tackle, where the defender grabs inside the back collar of the shoulder pads to pull the runner down, will now be a personal foul.

    • There will no longer be sideline warnings for players and coaches who crowd onto the field during the game. The official may assess a five-yard penalty without a warning for the infraction.

    Edit: I forgot the big one, The NCAA wants to x-nay the 25 second play clock to the NFL style 40 second play clock, which starts at the end of the previous play.
     
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  2. BuffSax

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    I'm glad they're going to call the horsecollar now. That'll hopefully keep some kids out there from getting hurt.

    Most ref's called the 15-yard facemask anyways from what I saw.
     
  3. 2HellNback

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    Yeah, I really like all of those rules. Except the sideline warning, or no warning... and the NFL play clock... They are really turning NCAA into the No Fun League, we really saw that during the bowl season.
     
  4. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    i think the removal of sideline warning is a huge mistake:bang:
     
  5. 2HellNback

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    I agree... More you turn into the No Fun League, the more power you give an official, especially a college official... he'll be throwin' yellow hankies all over the place.
     
  6. RalphieMalph

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    I don't like the play clock change. What's with this fixation the NCAA has on making the games end faster? I've never heard one fan complain about football games being too long... then again, I guess the fans really aren't who the NCAA is interested in pleasing. :huh:
     
  7. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I actually would be in favor of some changes to speed up games. Some of the games last year were nearly four hours long. That is excessive and it really starts screwing up the TV schedules to where the starts of some games are missed because the preceding game ends later. I realize that the TV networks are partly to blame for scheduling games so close together, but you cannot expect them to account for four hour games. I hate worrying about whether I will see the start of a Buffs game or an Auburn game because of this problem.

    With the advent of spread offenses and more passing plays, games will only get longer unless the NCAA does something about it. I'm guessing I will be alone in this opinion though.
     
  8. 87toInfinity

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    If every game lasted 4 hours we would be watching 48 hours of Our team in a regular season. That's not enough. :smile2:
     
  9. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    It depends on what kind of football you're watching. The basketball on grass bull**** that Texas Tech and some other teams play is pretty boring.
     
  10. sackman

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    I don't have any problems with the length of games. The rule change I don't like is the elimination of the 5-yard facemask penalty. When there's a difference, they would call the different penalty. Now I think we'll just get more of the 15-yard variety.
     
  11. GBR

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    Last year a lot of our games were entirely to long:cry:, I still do not want them messing with that aspect of the game though. Rule changes for the safety of players I agree with.
     
  12. Sexton Hardcastle

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    I just hate the fact that they're changing the game for some phoney network suits. Fuk that.
     
  13. 87toInfinity

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    Don't talk to me, 'Suit'.
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  14. GBR

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    Agree completley
     
  15. Sexton Hardcastle

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    Fuk Entourage:smile2:
     
  16. Buffalo Brad

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    I agree. The rules I have a huge problem with are the elimination of the 5 yd facemask, the elimination of the sideline warning and the 40 sec clock. The speed of the game should not come at the sacrafice of the game. I thought the speed of the game last year was fine and we all remember the last change that was made to speed up the game. Took 1 year for the outrage to change the rule back.
     
  17. 87toInfinity

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    Them's fightin' words!!
     
  18. Cornh8er

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    I look forward to saturdays in boulder so much that i have to disagree. If it was year round maybe (but prob not). As long as I'm having fun, they should make the games longer, it keeps me away from everything else, that I forget about on the weekends
     
  19. BehindEnemyLines

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    So, they want to shorten the game, yet they'll (possibly) give both coaches an extra challenge? Kinda defeats the other efforts IMO.

    No, 35 is sufficient. If the idea is to add offense and/or excitement, why not make the touchback come out to the 15 vice the 20? Effect would be more kick returns.

    It's a subjective call as it is now (determining whether or not a player "intended" to let go). However, the basis is player safety. Coaches would spend a little more time with tackling techniques. I could live with this one.

    This is another for player safety. I could live with this one as well.

    This one's BS. College football is about emotion and spirit. They should keep the warning but pay more attention to subsequent infractions, and call from there.

    How bad do I dislike this one? If it were in place last year, we probably don't upset the sooners.
     
  20. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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  21. Buffarino

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    We don't agree on much, Malph, but I'm with you 100% on this. I don't get the fixation on ending games sooner, either. Hell, I wish games were longer, although I know Mrs. Rino would disagree...
     
  22. Coloradosker

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    I agree completely with the horsecollar rule too. Too many guys have made their living tackling with that cheap stuff. The facemask one is questionable. I think there is a huge difference between accidentally brushing up against one and tackling a guy by one. Pretty cut and dry IMO, but whatever.
     
  23. The Monk

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    The change in clock rules probably won't get through, I haven't seen anywhere where people are in favor of it. Everything else seems fine. I really don't know how often sideline warnings occur, but I imagine the threshold for what merits a flag will probably go up from what was the threshold for a warning. So less calls on sideline activities plus a five yard flag seems relatively trivial.

    I think the facemask rule makes sense, the five yard penalty was a penalty for what amounted to something that had no effect of the game, considering that an effective facemask already bore the 15 yard personal foul penalty.
     
  24. 2HellNback

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    They need to ban the banned use of cow bells in the stands made famous by MSU fans in the SEC..."Cuz I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell!"

    :lol:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgpD8CKSmhs&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgpD8CKSmhs&feature=related[/ame]
     
  25. The Monk

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    Cow bells in stands would be beyond awesome. Have a huge one laying around from the Skiing World Championships in '99.
     
  26. CU827

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    No it would not be awesome. I had to deal with that enough from Mississppi State a long time ago and never want to hear that again.
     
  27. The Monk

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    Go watch golf.
     
  28. Coloradosker

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    What they need to ban is bells from Tech games. The guys have waaaaaaay too much fun with them:[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=_I-4XS3XtZQ"]YouTube - texas tech bell ringer[/ame]
     
  29. CarolinaBuff

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    Good point, a similar change was made last year that just about everyone hated and it didn't last. I agree with the majority on this board that I don't want the games to be shortened. I don't look forward to our games all week long just so they can end as quickly as possible.
     
  30. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    The 40-second clock would have little impact on shortening the game. What it WOULD do, though, is put more pressure on the refs to spot the ****ing ball for the next play, and give conferences a measurable stat for this when grading refs. How many times do we see refs lollygaggin about when they should be getting the ball ready for play?

    The proposed change that will impact the game's length is whether or not the clock stays stopped on out-of-bounds plays before the last 5:00 of a half. THAT is how the NFL keeps their games to ~3 hours.
     

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