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New DB and/or WR coach?
- Thread starter HotRack
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I don't think, or can't see how, one position coach makes a big difference. Especially since we are pretty set at WR for the next couple of years. I guess this is what gets me in such hot water with most of you. I tend to figure the AD/Staff have a plan and nothing I do or say will influence it. I'd also hope, at least, that they are on top of it. I know thats a stretch for most of you. :smile:
We have 2 weeks to fill a recruiting class that is low on numbers and we're doing it with a shorthanded staff. One poition coach can make a big difference. Position coaches are not solely responsible for recruiting their position, so it's not like when we fill up on Olineman, Johnson can take the rest of the offseason off. I would suggest that based on our performance last year, there is plenty of work to do, and having a full staff would be a start.
Well, Hawkins is in a tough position. We all want a top notch guy. But top notch guy can pick and choose. Because of the "perception" of what will happen with Hawkins after next year, why would top notch guy sign on? But, hey, thats just me. Why not just keep ripping the program all over the internet and then throw our hands up and aske, "Why does top notch guy want to sign with us?" :lol:
Where did I rip the program?? I know it must be hard to find a top notch assistant given the state of things, but at this point I'd settle for a solid, if unspectacular hire just so that I (and more importantly the team) knows whp their coaches are and can start preparing for next season.
We're not trying to hire an elite OC here, were looking for a WR coach, there must be hundreds of candidates who could do the job well.
The longer this drags on the higher my expectations get if only to justify why a hire hasn't been made by now, but I suspect the opposite may be true.
So, you've seen his plan and decided it isn't organized? Or seen that he has no plan at all and is just winging it? Man, that's depressing. I would think that at this level a HC would have some sort of plan in place. Guess not.
All I can say is that his plan better include winning this year because if he doesn't, he can plan on how to spend his buy out money. There will be no fans more pissed at him if he loses than those who have gone the extra mile in supporting him. Well, not him so much as his program. He had better damned well win next season. If he doesn't, I'm real close to leading the "Troy Calhoun" charge.
Seriously, not trying to complain or berate Hawk, do we not really need a WR coach pretty soon? It seems very weird to me that it's been so long and we haven't even heard of anyone interviewing for the position. I'd think that it would get done a few weeks before signing day so the guy can recruit, but I guess now I'll settle for just having the guy around so he can meet the players and get to know the coaches and such.
Aside from the recruiting aspect, CU needs a WR coach so that they can get acclimated to Boulder, the coaching staff, sit down and figure out what the scheme is going to be in Spring ball, get that implemented and have something to build off going into the summer and fall practice.
Somehow I get the impression that DBT would be just pleased as punch if Hawkins remains at WR coach.
Somehow I get the impression that DBT would be just pleased as punch if Hawkins remains at WR coach.
BlackNGold
Club Member
It appears that the CU football program has become an unattractive venue. From the outside, leadership is not readily apparent.
I come in peace. But I'm curious, as it relates to Boulder Buff's quote, what do you mean exactly? That coaches don't want to come here and that is why we haven't hired a WR coach from outside?
BlackNGold
Club Member
I speak to the bizarre part of his comment. The process is bizarre because the positions are unattractive. They are unattractive for a variety of reasons not the least of which is lack of leadership within the football program and the AD. Hawkins is not well-connected in coaching circles so he is an outsider looking in when at the coaching convention.
I don't know what actually transpired (so maybe this did happen), but usually when a BCS program with the prestige CU has enjoyed has a position coach opening... just about every young, out-of-work or smaller school WR coach in the country would have been trying to get a resume in our head coach's hands and at least a couple minutes of face time to give his elevator pitch for why he'd be a great hire for us. If that didn't occur, it's a big problem.
BlackNGold
Club Member
I don't know what has happened but I do know that even when the program was embattled in 2004 - we were able to get Mike Hankewitz to come back to be DC at CU. Like you say, our HC should of been bombarded with resumes at the coaches convention.
The position may be unattractive, but it's not because Hawkins is on the outside at the coaching convention..... Losing seasons, a HC on the hotseat, and the AD being able to offer a guy just 1 year makes this a tougher sell.
HOWEVER, they are in the process of hiring a coach even if they are not talking about it. I don't know if it's a WR coach or not.
HOWEVER, they are in the process of hiring a coach even if they are not talking about it. I don't know if it's a WR coach or not.
"Unattractive" is relative. If you're deciding between job offers from CU, Florida, Texas, or the NFL then I would agree that a CU offer may look unattractive, but let's not kid ourselves - the job pays $300,000 +/- and you get to live in Boulder and coach BCS football for a living.
Like Bufnik said, if they haven't collected hundreds of resumes by now, something is wrong.
Nice post, but you are way off on your salary estimates there. This new hire might (and I stress might) make half of that number.
Uhh so what does that mean? Hawk the WR coach part 2?
That's why I said "+/-", there's a 50% margin of error in my calculation. Anyway, point is it's better than most jobs, including jobs as a local high school head coach...cough.
Considering I didn't make half that number until I was 40, it's still a pretty impressive salary. Although maybe not worth uprooting your family or living apart from them for a year. Heck, I can't pretend I know what the assistant college coaching job market looks like.
I am, however, with you in the feeling that I simply don't understand how the coaching staff could leave the vacancy open during such a critical time of the year. Although hiring the wrong person just because you need a warm body would be a mistake too.
As has been said... we'll see.
Salary compounds the 1-year contract issue. We're paying Coordinators in the 250k range. Our entire assistant coach budget is about $2 million. One of the most important things we could do is find the budget to start bumping that budget by 10-20% per year until we're back to at least being in the middle of the pack for the Big 12. Currently, we're about $600k short of being around 6th place in assistant coach payroll.