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New Pac-12 transfer rule

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffnik, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I like this one. Will keep Pac-12 programs from the situation of bringing in a guy who is booted out of his previous school. I believe that this won't hurt talent as much as it protects team chemistry and university integrity (while avoiding bad press & scandal). Good move, imho.

    h/t to @BuffStampede for finding and posting this press release on his board.

    LAS VEGAS – The Pac-12 CEO Group – made up of the presidents and chancellors of Pac-12 member institutions – approved a policy prohibiting a transfer from receiving athletic aid or participating in athletics if the transfer student-athlete is unable to re-enroll at a previous institution due to student misconduct, the Conference announced today.

    Under the new policy, student-athlete transfers who are ineligible to re-enroll at any of their previous colleges or universities will be automatically deemed ineligible to receive athletic aid from a Pac-12 university and cannot join any university team or participate in their activities.

    The transfer policy will apply only to student misconduct issues such as assault, harassment, academic fraud, and other violations of campus behavior conduct policies. It will not apply to academic performance reasons unrelated to misconduct.

    “This is an important step to strengthen our student-athlete transfer admission processes and to address the safety of our students,” said UCLA Chancellor Gene Block who serves as the Chair of the Pac-12 CEO Group.

    To institute the policy, each Pac-12 university will require its student-athlete transfer applicants to self-disclose whether they are eligible to re-enroll at their prior institution. Each Pac-12 university may create an appeal process for student-athletes who are deemed ineligible by this policy.
     
  2. RollTad21

    RollTad21 Club Member Club Member

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    So would this have applied to guys like winfree and Lewis?
     
  3. Buffenuf

    Buffenuf massive tool

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    Or, thinking back, even P Rich???
     
  4. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    PRich would have been allowed back at UCLA (they wanted to delay his enrollment), so this rule would not have prevented him from coming here
     
  5. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    Altman must be pissed.
     
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  6. Creebuzz

    Creebuzz Club Member Club Member

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    Yeah, I view this as the Altman rule.
     
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  7. BuffHerd

    BuffHerd Club Member Club Member

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    Bingo
     
  8. pcbuff

    pcbuff Club Member Club Member

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    I'm not sure how I feel about this. Part of being a student is figuring out how to be an adult. If they aren't in criminal trouble, does a kid deserve a second chance?
     
  9. SINKRATZ

    SINKRATZ Club Member Club Member

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    They'll usually get that 2nd chance before getting kicked out of school. I'm ok with this, an athletic scholarship is a privilege.
     
  10. goalline

    goalline Jedi Master Club Member

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    This puts the onus of any 'second' chance back on the transfer athlete and the original school, rather than making the Pac-12 schools vet every transfer. This would also apply in the recent Baylor case (if Baylor had to abide by this rule). If I recall correctly, that player was in trouble at his original school (Boise?) and then was accepted to Baylor where the coaches denied knowledge of his prior issues.
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I'm all about 2nd chances. So go to a JUCO for a year to get your **** together. Then you're eligible to transfer into the Pac-12. If you're an upperclassman and got dismissed, then go to a lower division to play and get your degree. I like the Pac-12 having a standard.
     
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  12. pcbuff

    pcbuff Club Member Club Member

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    I keep going back to a kid like P-Rich, who did a stupid high school kid thing at UCLA, and seemed to do well publicly at CU. I then see the rap sheets on the Oregon or Baylor kids, and think the failings are on the legal side. For some reason, I don't see the theft of a lap top as the same as rape and arson. I trusted the CU coaches and AD to do the screening.
     
  13. RollTad21

    RollTad21 Club Member Club Member

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    After rereading, and I'm not sure about P-rich or the 2 guys I mentioned from this class, the rule applies to kids getting kicked out of school. Not just off the team.
     
  14. Big Jim

    Big Jim WTF? Club Member

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    Thank goodness Richardson was a Buff, but stealing a woman's purse is not a "stupid high school kid thing".
     
  15. Highlander

    Highlander Club Member Club Member

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    I thought he stole a bike?
     
  16. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    As stated earlier, P-Rich was not dismissed from UCLA. This rule would not have applied to him.

    FWIW, it also wouldn't have applied to guys like Samson and Tupou who were suspended by CU but were not dismissed.
     
  17. Buffalo Brad

    Buffalo Brad Club Member Club Member

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    Sounds like it will eventually apply to Mr. Robbins
     
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    Denver_sc Club Member Club Member

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    I'm not sure the bolded is correct, after re-reading the article. The wording they use is:

    "student-athlete transfers who are ineligible to re-enroll at any of their previous colleges or universities will be automatically deemed ineligible to receive athletic aid from a Pac-12 university and cannot join any university team or participate in their activities."

    So, even if you went to a JUCO for a year that wouldn't help as the SA would still likely be unable to re-enroll at the original school that dismissed them.
     
  19. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    If you went to a JUCO for a year, that JUCO is your "previous school".
     
  20. NW Buff

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    "any of their previous colleges or universities..."
     
  21. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I stand corrected. Still like this, though.
     
  22. NW Buff

    NW Buff Club Member Club Member

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    In the light of the Baylor case, I understand it but I don't like absolutes rules like this in general. There needs to be some case-by-case flexibility. For example, kid gets kicked out of BYU for having consensual sex...
     
  23. SINKRATZ

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    They just can't transfer to the Pac 12. There are plenty other places who will take these kids if they can play.
     
  24. Heywood

    Heywood The actual El Guapo Club Member

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    Didnt Awini get kicked out of Air Force for an honor code violation?
     
  25. 89BUFF89

    89BUFF89 Well-Known Member

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    i am sure altman is already figuring out the loopholes.
     

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