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Next year's schedule

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Duff Man, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    CSU
    Central Arkansas
    Fresno State

    Home
    Arizona
    California
    Oregon
    USC

    Away
    Arizona State
    Oregon State
    UCLA
    Utah
    Washington

    Try to tell me with a straight face that schedule is not tougher than this season. Nine common opponents from this season and we pick up a potential preseason top 25 team on the road (Oregon State). Plus Central Arkansas, arguably the easiest game on the schedule, will be no pushover.
     
  2. lawdogg

    lawdogg Club Member Club Member

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    Is Central Arkansas the same as Arkansas State?
     
  3. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    I don't see Arkansas State on the schedule you've put up...
     
  4. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    We play Central Arkansas (8-2 FCS team), not Arkansas State from the Sun Belt.
     
  5. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Embree and Co- 2-3 wins. Anybody else-3-5
     
  6. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    We know this, but apparently you don't.
     
  7. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    My bad.
     
  8. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    The conference wins are hard to find, especially with the uncertainty surrounding Cal.
     
  9. lawdogg

    lawdogg Club Member Club Member

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    Cannot disagree.
     
  10. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    That's a strong schedule but it's not very tough either.

    Even USC at home with all they're losing, CLK on the sideline, and their depth issues is a game a mediocre team should feel it has a good shot in.

    Our problem is that under Embree we are so far below mediocre that our highlights from this season are the quarters of games we can think of when we were actually mediocre.

    Anyway: Good coaching staff = 3-0 start and 3 to 5 wins in the Pac-12 next season.
     
  11. 77buff

    77buff Well-Known Member

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    Seriously man - Central Arkansas - no pushover - I've never heard of them.
     
  12. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    For the University of Colorado, given our past record against FCS opponents, it would suggest that game is not a gimme.
     
  13. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Agreed. I'd go so far as saying this is the scariest game on the schedule. We are absolutely awful against FCS opponents.
     
  14. SINKRATZ

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    Aren't they the ones that installed that red and grey striped turf field?

    Edit: answered my own question, yes but it's purple and grey. Lame.
     
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  15. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    With current staff I see one win.

    With any other coaching staff 4, and maybe 5 wins.
     
  16. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Disagree on the other coaching staff comment, I'd see 6 to 7 but....
    1-11
     
  17. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    So if we get 4 wins that would be great progress. Forget the fact that 2 of those wins would likely come against CSU and Central Arkansas.
     
  18. liverflukes

    liverflukes Resident Bear Club Member

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    I believe we play CU in Berkeley next year but different sites are listing this game's site differently. Cal will publicly pull the trigger on a new coach after the Oregon State game. Some say it's already a done deal.
     
  19. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    If you guys would have upset Oregon last night, would it have saved Tedford?

    As a fan, if that would have happened, it would have just made me more pissed... "if we've got the talent to do that, how on earth do you explain the team's record?". That's actually what I was thinking while watching the first quarter of your game last night.
     
  20. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    No doubt. I was watching Cal fly to the ball on defense last night. There is obvious talent on defense at Cal, so it really points to the coaching on why they are struggling.
     
  21. liverflukes

    liverflukes Resident Bear Club Member

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    An Oregon upset would not have saved him. People are too pissed that he doesn't play our best players nor have imaginative play calling. We also have the lowest APR score in the PAC. He did great things for us and showed us the light but it's time for a change and rumors say it's in progress. Tedford has a lot of integrity and players like him. Too much is on the line now though.

    Anyway, enough about my dirty laundry, is Embree really going to be given another year? If so, could he succeed if he got say 3 new assistants? If he stays, I can't see him keeping some of his assistants. That would defy logic IMO.

    If he gets let go, we're going to be competing for the same pool of available coaches. There will be many coaching changes before 2013. Should be an interesting off season in college football.
     
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    Darn... we've lost Washington State! Well, Central Ark's recruiting might have picked up this year after their prospects saw CU's performance. "A real chance to beat a Pac-12 team!" Good grief...
     
  24. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    It only defies logic because you aren't working from the correct foundational premises regarding CU football.

    P1: No decision will ever be made that rocks the political boat.
    P2: No decision will ever be made that costs more money than standing pat would.

    With Embree, you have to mostly look at P1. He's African-American and this was celebrated as part of his hiring. Given that the National Coaches Association tells its members to avoid programs that don't give coaches at least 3 years and that there is such an issue with AA coaches being given too few opportunities in D1 football, firing Embree is politically difficult. On top of that, he is a former Buff who has the full support of our legendary coach McCartney as well as the old-time boosters he is able to influence. That's a further political problem.

    With P2, you can probably make a business argument that the lost ticket revenue will cost more than the buyouts and price of a new staff. That might sway the administration on this front. However, the real impact of season ticket non-renewals won't be known with certainty for about 9 months. That provides cover for not being swayed by the financial argument if you don't want to rock the political boat. Throw into this mix that no matter whether you can make a sound argument on the financial side, it isn't as strong as the sound byte argument that counters it: "In-State and Out-Of-State Tuition has been going up at a ridiculous rate that prices CU out of the market... but they're wasting millions of dollars replacing football coaches."

    It's imminently logical.

    This is exactly what went into Dan Hawkins coaching 2010 as a lame duck the AD tried to fire at the end of the 2009 season (only to be overruled). This is what went into Ricardo Patton coaching out his contract in basketball instead of firing him and paying double salaries for a year.

    We have a failure for a football coach. It will be tolerated because we have an even bigger failure of university leadership.
     
  25. liverflukes

    liverflukes Resident Bear Club Member

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    Thanks for the "welcome back" Tante.
     
  26. liverflukes

    liverflukes Resident Bear Club Member

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    Nik,

    That's unbelievable. Another year for those reasons? How does anything get done at CU?
     
  27. Gridiron

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    CSU - toss up
    Central Arkansas - toss up
    Fresno State - toss up, likely loss

    Home
    Arizona - loss
    California - toss up, likely loss
    Oregon - loss
    USC - loss

    Away
    Arizona State - loss
    Oregon State - loss
    UCLA - loss
    Utah - toss up, likely loss
    Washington - loss

    At most 5 wins, and that's being very generous. Most likely 2-10 or 3-9 with wins over CSU and/or Central Arkansas, possibly grabbing a Pac12 game also. Can't see this coaching staff doing a damn thing that makes us any better this year then next. The youth argument is BS if you don't coach and develop players. Seeing how bad the QBs are, our only hope is Dillon or Sefo just have "it". Young secondary and d-line will be accustomed to game speed, but not sold on this coaching staff developing them into Pac12 talent. Richardson's return will be nice, but defenses will key on him so Spruce/McCullough will still need to step up, or Thomas, Williams and Thomas (if he returns) need to take over that #2 spot. Again, can't see our staff doing a damn thing with talent even if we had it...

    Thank god for CU hoops.
     
  28. CVilleBuff

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    Embree: 1 win

    Any other staff: 4 or 5
     
  29. Jaximus

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    I'll just go ahead predict a 0 win season. A commitment to excellence.
     
  30. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Things get done at CU?

    The biggest success we've had in terms of getting things done was with the basketball/volleyball practice facility. Our AD, Bohn, handled this brilliantly (he must have had help). He hired a MBB coach, Bzdelik, from Air Force where our AD had previously worked and had relationships. Bohn and Bzdelik put it into Bzdelik's contract that if practice facility did not begin by a certain date, Bzdelik could leave for another job without penalty. Ground hadn't been broken, the drop date was approaching, Bzdelik was looking around and it was obvious he was leaving... so Bohn was able to get the go-ahead to break ground despite all the funding not being in place. Our administrators knew the funding was close and they wanted to make sure they got a $500k check for Bzdelik leaving while under contract. On top of that, Bohn was able to sell the finances of this with his plan to hire a less expensive coach from up the road (wouldn't even cost us re-location fees). And that, flukes, is how things get done at CU.

    We now have a new practice facility, a great coach, and one of the better men's basketball programs in the west.
     

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