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NFL DRAFT (off topic)

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by colinski, Apr 5, 2008.

  1. colinski

    colinski Member

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    I've been pondering the upcoming NFL draft and wondered what other people think about the subject.

    Specifically, I've been looking at the Broncos needs and wondering how this crop matches up with them.

    Here are some suggested topics for discussion -- (1.) WHAT ARE THE BRONCOS' POSITIONAL NEEDS?

    My answer: DT, LB, OT, S and WR.

    [DT] - My impression is that Dorsey (LSU) and Ellis (USC) are going to be long gone (obviously) by the 12th pick and it's too high for Balmer (UNC) at 12. There are a number of suitable picks in the 2nd and 3rd round and I'd be happy to see the Broncos pick a DT at that point. Some of those possibles; Laws (ND), Bryant(T A&M), Sims (Au), Moore (Md).

    I still see a high probability of the Jets' Robertson coming in a trade.

    [LB] - Rivers is possible at 12 but he's an OLB. Mayo's stock is rising but he's a stretch at 12 and should be long gone by their 2nd (11/42 overall). Some of the ILBs are late 1st/early 2nd material (Conner - PS, Goff - Vblt) and I see the Broncos using a pick on LB even if it's on an OLB, since there are number of 2nd rd. caliber athletes here.

    [OT] -- This looks like a likely, merely because there's number of OTs available at 12. I don't like the idea that much, even though LT is a crucial position. I'd just as soon see them trade up or down and use their 1st to fill DT or move down for more picks. This draft appears to have a number of lesser of lesser regarded prospects that what fit the Broncos needs (more is better, if they're early enough, i.e., 2-3rd).

    [WR] -- It's an area that has need, with Walker gone and Marshall's misdeeds. There are a number of fairly good players in the 2nd and below range that could be picked and I don't think they'll be using their 1st here, although the 2nd pick is appropriate if a number of the WRs drop lower. I don't expect them to push it, so they'll pick a WR if the highest player available is a WR.

    -- Not much in the first round, and they've addressed their needs somewhat in free agency. Whether they pick one high will depend on the draft. There's a lot available later, and it would hardly a surprise if they pick one late. CB is stronger in this draft.

    OTHER STRANGE POSSIBILITIES -- a RB, such as Mendenhall (Ill) or Stewert (Or), appear set to go around 12, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them pick one at 12.

    [DE] is quite possible, especially if they move down for more picks. Gholston would be a no-brainer at 12, and Merling (Clemson) and Harvey (Fl) are possible if they move down.

    [CB] Lots available, there are some that will be hard to ignore if they're the highest rated. I see at least one coming aboard, the question is how high. I wouldn't be surprised to see one fairly high because of the surplus here.

    [K] I see them using a late pick here; they need both. I don't know whether Mare will sign, which would take care of kicker, but I think they'd be willing to pick a punter with one of their 7s.

    Because of the Broncos position in the draft, it's very possible that they'll move to take advantage of the drafts' strength's a certain positions.

    The Broncos picks; (1) 12 (2) 42 (4) 108, 119 (5) 139, 148 (6) 183 (7) 220, 227

    There's far more that I could say here, but it's a start. What's everyone else's opinion? I'm focused on the Broncos but I'd be willing to discuss other teams, too.
     
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  2. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    If you know it is off topic why don't you post it in the pub?:huh::confused:
     
  3. RalphieMalph

    RalphieMalph Well-Known Member

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    First it's a 82-part dissertation on National Signing Day, and now we've moved on to the NFL Draft...

    Damnit Colinski, just ONCE I want to see you talk about an actual football game!! :lol:
     
  4. colinski

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    You think that would be better? I thought a football topic would make sense.
     
  5. colinski

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    Because it's basketball season and they're not playing. BTW -- it looks like a possible 3-way tie; Nugs, Warriors & Mavs. Nugs win tiebreakers, though.
     
  6. RalphieMalph

    RalphieMalph Well-Known Member

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    Well Colinski, in legitimate response to your post, the one player that I've been grandstanding for this year is Brandon Coutu, the kicker from Georgia. I don't want the Broncos to be one of these Cowboys-esque teams that goes through 6 kickers in 5 seasons, and Coutu's a polished product that will give the Broncs reliable, consistent production from the kicker position.

    He probably won't have the success of Jason (or Mason, for that matter) once all's said and done, but he could easily be a Treadwell or Karlis.
     
  7. BehindEnemyLines

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    They do have a lot of "needs". But OT is the most glaring, especially if they can get a first-rate LT. It isn't a glamorous pick but at this point it's necessary. LB, WR, DL, and RB seem to be next in line.
     
  8. colinski

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    That's the position that fits what's available when they pick, and one of the deepest in the draft (especially if you count G, too). The question is whether they can still pick up a good one later, because of this surplus. It's the most common mock draft choice for Denver, with Boise States' Clady being the most common mock selection. He's perfect for pass blocking, but I have questions about his strength and run blocking ability.

    My main problem is not with the importance of a LT but with timing; he may not provide immediate help, so plan B may be in order, i.e., finding veteran in a trade or through a move. They may do that even if they draft a LT.
     
  9. colinski

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    I distinctly recall wishing the Broncos had drafted Crosby last year. He went in the 6th, 193.

    The rating I've looked at has Cootu #1.

    http://www.thefootballexpert.com/kprankings2008.html

    I've also seen a mock with the North Dakota State's punter, Dragosavich, going in the 7th to the Broncos. Late picks aren't an issue, if you're going to lose them to someone else. It's also nice to make solid connections beforehand and woo the UFAs. One of the best things they did last year was finding a player like Selvin Young.
     
  10. RalphieMalph

    RalphieMalph Well-Known Member

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    That punter's first name isn't Ivan, is it? If it is, I'm immediately adding him to my "players the Broncos MUST draft" list.

    I must break you.
     
  11. colinski

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    "Mike," and he's an interesting physical specimen.

    Mike Dragosavich North Dakota St. : Ht. - 6-5, Wt. - 210, 40-yd. - 4.85

    Don't know exactly why whoever I was looking at picked him for the Broncos. Need, mostly, and he's probably got some gaudy stats. If it's only costs a 7th rounder and he can really punt then I'm all for it. I think special teams are 25% of the game.
     
  12. Cornh8er

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    did we get a JUMBO yet?
     
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    Why all the jabs at Colinski? Can't we all just get along?
     
  14. colinski

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    There are a number. I like the idea of drafting James Hardy, but there are some better ones who aren't quite as big. I think Brandon Marshall fits this category perfectly -- BTW.

    http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/james_hardy.htm

    James Hardy Ht: 6’ 6” Wt: 218 lbs.

    Here's a list of WRs, many of the top ranked are big.

    http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/wide_receivers.htm

    One position that I haven't mentioned, TE, has a slim possibility for the Broncos. I can see them taking an athletic big guy like Missou's Rucker, probably not till the 4th, but he'll be long gone by then.
     
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    That's one skinny kid:wow:
     
  16. Idot Buff

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    Colinski has been gone for awhile....I assumed he was pursuing a jumbo on his own since Hawk failed....:dance:
     

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