Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by buffwoman526, Oct 30, 2008.
College hands down. Nothing beats it.
I agree. DD and I were just taking about Mora and the Hawks vs. the Huskies. Apparently Mora refuses to comment to the media regarding the UW job which makes me think he is considering the position. Then I just got to thinking about what I would rather do in a hypothetical world. College football wins w/o a doubt.
I'm curious to see what Mora chooses.
...an average NFL career with lots of $$$$ or a long-term (20+years) HC stint in college with more total $$$$ and a team that rivals USC in the Pac-9 (no 10 until UW has a real HC)
What about Lane Kiffin?
I think it would depend on the location. For instance, I wouldn't mind being the CU head coach, but I'd rather be in the NFL than be the head coach of CSU. I wouldn't want to be the head coach in Ames, IA if I could be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings.
Best scenario for me would be head coach at CU, but then it's a mixed bag after that.
College without a doubt. I'll take most college sports over professional any day. With the exception of soccer and baseball.
As much as I love college FB I'm gonna have to go with NFL here because it is a longer football season where more energy is spent on designing plays, scouting other teams and actual coaching work versus the majority of time and emphasis on recruiting in college.
I don't think I'd be real keen on traveling the country to beg high schoolers to come play for me. I'd go nuts when some kid would commit to some god forsaken ****hole like kNU over my school. Would drive me insane.
Head coach at Hawaii. I still can't believe June Jones went to SMU.
On the surface, what you're saying sounds wonderful. The reality is that UH offers virtually no support for their athletic department. Recruiting is very difficult and extremely expensive. All the really good local athletes go to the mainland, and the mainland athletes stay there. The facilities are terrible. The university doesn't pay squat for it's coaches, and there's no donor support whatsoever. The fact that UH can field any competitive teams at all is a small miracle. Oh, and it's really, REALLY expensive to live in Hawaii.
June Jones left because he made an ultimatum with UH a few years ago. He said if he could get the team to a BCS bowl, the University would agree to some major facilities upgrades and an increased athletic budget. They didn't fulfil their end of the bargain, so he left.
To me recruiting would be the biggest argument in favor of the NFL over college. I suppose some coaches love it (I could see Hawk being in that category), but for most its probably just mostly humiliating to sit and beg kids to come play for them.
But I still say college, just because of the possibility that if you do well at a University, you can become a beloved part of the school, a legend or a tradition so to speak. Look at Bear Bryant, JoePa, Bo Schembechler, Bowden, etc. etc. People at those schools loved those guys. Even with a couple down years people still loved them. Then look at Don Shula, Dan Reeves, even Mike Shanahan now. They've all had some great success in their careers, but with a few down years the fan base turns on them. The NFL is a much more mercenary business.
And don't even get me started on what it must be like to get the "opportunity" to coach a Terrell Owens or Pac-Man Jones at the NFL level... :wow:
Agreed on that part...but if anyone saw the tirade the new SF 49ers coach went on last Sunday and sending Vernon Davis to the locker room....that'd be kinda fun to tell a spoiled asshole like T.O. to go home...don't know bout you, but I wanted to give the guy a standing ovation in my living room after he just went off during his press conference
Are you implying that TO and Pacman are coachable?
Not at all. I'm just saying that coaching them is part of somebody's job description. The fact that it can't be done is why coaching in the NFL would suck. Of course, the same thing can happen at the college level, I suppose. Just ask Jim Tressell about Mo Clarett (I wish Shanny had...:sad1
If you are going to throw UW out you have to throw WSU out as well. That game will be sad. Might as well call it the Pac-8 until the state gets it together.
The key word is talent... If I had it, no question: Show me the money NFL!!!
Not to mention, still very demanding, but there isn't recruiting... You don't have to babysit kids, worry about them in the classroom and getting in trouble, while in the NFL a select few need babysitting... But the easier job is NFL if you have the talent.
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