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NMBuff's Five Points

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by BuffaloChuck, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. BuffaloChuck

    BuffaloChuck Member

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    At the end of the game, NMBuff listed his five points of the game and I'm hoping he'll re-list those here for our continuing debates.
     
  2. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Can't remember if this is right, but here goes....

    1. Play action does not work when you have 0 rushing yards in the game. 0. The safeties would have to be incredibly stupid to fall for it. Even then with our OL play they'll be stopped at the line anyway.

    2. Rolling out effectively limits half of the field. Unless you have WRs coming across the middle then 1/2 of your WRs are not in on the play. Even then you must have the arm strength of Peyton Manning to throw across your body 20 yards down the field. It's difficult and tough to run this play effectively. We've kept this around since BJax, which it was designed for, and I'm not sure why. We aren't rolling out for a TD, so stop it. Unless we throw back across the field to misdirect the D and throw a WR screen I don't want to see this play ever again...or unless it's a TE pass to the endzone.

    3. We abandon the running game and become a ****ty version of TT. When our RB goes out across the top we get a nice 5-6 yards. This is the ONLY play we run consistently that is a short pass that gains us YAC. TT establishes a short passing attack, we don't. We rarely get any YAC.

    4. Very few slants and screens are ever called. Seriously this is bull**** because you see a lot of run blitzes called against us when it's obvious we are going to run the ball. Short passes would help Tyler take some pressure off of him. Right now Tyler isn't very good at the 5 and 7 step drop patterns. I think he'd be good at the 3 step drop to help him get into rhythm. It'll also help teach him to throw from the pocket.

    5. Our WRs can't recognize coverage. I honestly think this is why we use a lot of motion as the coaches are using a rudimentary method to find coverage schemes. Once they are out and the play is broken we only have 1 proven WR that can find the seam in zone and can get seperation. Route running is one element of being a WR, but recognizing coverages is another.

    This goes to...
    6. Do we allow the QB to call audibles at the line? WTF. I don't remember Hansen changing the play anytime at the line, but then again with personnel groups we'd have to substitute guys out. Then again we are always scrambling to get the proper guys in/get the play called.
     
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  3. BuffaloChuck

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    (Thanks for this. I know this was a low-blow tactic to get these listed. Thanks for playing!)

    Your #6 "Allow Audibles?" goes back to #4 and, unfortunately, #5, I fear. Not calling anti-blitz plays can ONLY occur at the time of the snap. Only the players can detect the need for this. I have a feeling that Coach Hawkins' refusal to prepare Hansen is a castrating motion to #6, therefore.

    When Hansen scrambled, he'd spend 2-3-4 seconds looking for a receiver - ANY receiver, then move again, look again and would finally get sacked. His receivers don't have any clue where his 'default line-of-sight' falls - this should be more logical for them. But with lack of reps and play-time, they cannot sync up with whoever the QB Du Jour is.

    This is what Hansen & Co have bred into this team. This is what we get.

    I AM certain that, with this coaching staff and these players, and another 7 or 10 years, they'll finally get it right. Maybe 11 years. But by that time, I'm sure.

    Well, possibly. Maybe.
     
  4. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Last year Cody was given the reigns to call an audible, but he had trouble going for the slant. Last year we also gave our players time to get the initial play called.

    As much as I think Kiseau is going to be a good OC he isn't there right now. I don't know if he's being castrated by Hawk or whatnot, but he must get the play in earlier. It's pathetic to see a team get so many false starts and delay of game calls when we are halfway through the season.

    Kiseau needs to be mentored under an offensive minded coach to get him to where he wants to be. Helfriech went to UO and under Chip Kelly is going to be a good OC in the future. We don't have that offensive mastermind at CU under which he could learn. At Cal, where he came from, Tedford would be a great mentor.

    EDIT: Last year running the no huddle we also were able to change the play at the line given what the D was calling.

    This is just another issue. But why is our DC on the field? Can anyone think of any other team where the DC is not in the booth? Stick to a gameplan...that's what I'm seeing from this coaching staff, even when you are down 33-0. We need to make adjustments DURING the game and not just at halftime (which I think the staff does a terrible job at).
     
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  5. BuffaloChuck

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    Uh. SEC teams have several DCs on the field. Closer to home, that black-shirted fellow jumping up and down, going wild on the Texas sidelines? That's DC Will Muschamp, getting knocked down, head-butted by helmeted players (and stitched up shortly thereafter), etc. He's got staffers in the booth collecting trend-data, but he and his DB Coord are both on the sidelines.

    I have a hard time blaming players for non-adjustments or non-audibles because they have so many NCAA-regulated limits to practice time. Then, when a team is hamstrung by its coaching staff from letting backups have access to first-line receivers, it's no wonder that audibles may be worse than useless because receivers and a, say, 2nd string redshirt QB have no history of communications or "If-Then" drills beyond a week or two.

    I know this can improve given time. That's why I'm wondering if Hansen will redshirt next year and maybe 3-4 more seasons so this staff will let him have the time. Didn't Jethro Bodine spend 8-9 years getting HIS brain-surgeon degree? Surely our own Dobie G. Hawkins will give him the same time.
     
  6. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Agreed with the DC on the field. Even Pelini is on the sidelines and he's the mastermind of the ****er D. I'm just frustrated that we come out with a bad gameplan from the very beginning and fail to adapt. It seems like we run a scripted D for the first 25 plays of a game before we make an adjustment. CSU and Toledo go over the top repeatedly and it takes us a while to learn to not call that play? Terrible. Collins has never been the DC of a BCS winning team nor has he had top 20 defenses while he's been here. When he does that I'll give him some slack. Did he watch Mizzou in their previous losses, because if he did then he would have known that getting to Gabbert would have been the key to winning. He learned that only after they put up so many points on us that we knew our O couldn't come back and win it, even if we had a shutout in the 2nd half (which we came close....still think Pinkel let up).

    We have a good enough D, especially in 2006, to win more than we have so the blame isn't entirely on him, but I'm sick of getting thrashed by Mizzou. They aren't 33-0 good and we aren't 33-0 bad. We lost this game before it had even started and that's pathetic because Mizzou is going to be better next year when we play them at their house.

    To win the North we are going to have to learn how to beat the spread. KU's 2TOs inside their own 20 gave us enough momentum, but that's rarely going to happen in any game.
     
  7. BuffaloChuck

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    There was another thread's sarcastic comment about "Yeah, why bother blitzing a gimpy QB?" and, while I agree with the negative tone toward scripted D for X plays, I would have definitely considered scripting in blitzes, at least, against Gabbert until he proved he could outmaneuver those.

    I'd have also calculated, "If I need to judge Gabbert's abilities, let's do it while he's cold and full of start-of-game nerves. If he burns us, fine, at least we'll have 59 minutes to make up for it."

    The soft D in the first possession made Gabbert look Heisman-esque, and let him warm up, get stretched out and he never looked nearly as gimpy from that point on. Could Hawkins have done him a greater favor? I don't think so.

    NMB, this goes back to your CONSPIRACY thread, though...
     
  8. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Our blitz packages are terrible though. Only against Mizzou did I see us finally hiding them, especially the CB blitzes, before the snap in the 2nd half. I haven't seen a delayed safety blitz this year that shot the gap and worked, to my knowledge. I look at guys like Muschamp and his blitz packages are bounds and leaps ahead of anything we have here...and this is only the 2nd year he's been at Texas.
     
  9. Darth Snow

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    I noted that too.. was really shocked that it took our guys so long to figure out how to delay a blitz package... :huh:
     

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