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No more conference champ games?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by hokiehead, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. hokiehead

    hokiehead Gobbler on the Mountain Club Member

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    link.

    Summary: The ACC and BigXII are proposing that the NCAA 'de-regulate' conference championship games in light of the new playoff structure, likely eliminating a one-game playoff between division champs for the conference champ. The author claims:
    I feel this is something that I could passionately argue either side of, given research time. I suspect the net result will end up placing more media emphasis (which will lead to more public interest) on the inter-conference playoffs than on conference championships -- I see that as a negative.
     
  2. cubuffs85

    cubuffs85 Active Member

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    LOL part of the reason, the ACC expanded was to stage a championship game. Remember they petitioned to do one when there were only 11 teams.

    You almost have to have a championship game when not every team is playing against each other every year IMO.
     
  3. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    :stupid:
     
  4. hokiehead

    hokiehead Gobbler on the Mountain Club Member

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    That's going to be the biggest objection, no doubt.

    Yep, in 2004, the ACC was weak and in danger of collapse. At the time, the NCAA had a rule and the ACC had no leverage to change, so adding BC was the only route to get there. Now they're as secure as any other conference and driving for change, recognizing that the conference championship game wasn't a long term money maker, especially with the playoffs coming. Times change.
     
  5. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    texasssss doesn't want a championship game.
     
  6. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I like the conference championship game.

    I'm ok with getting rid of it, however, if the NCAA will allow a 14-game schedule that allows the Buffs to play an 11-game schedule in the Pac-12 and then another 3 non-conference games.
     
  7. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    For a lot of years a conference championship game was seen as an obvious money maker. Take two teams that had good seasons and put them on TV in a week where the majority of the rest of college football isn't playing. Winner gets the crown.

    What could go wrong?

    In recent years a few things have gone wrong. One is that attendance at these games hasn't been great and the TV money while nice hasn't been huge.

    The bigger issue is that a number of conferences have seen situations where a win by the higher rated team doesn't do much of anything to improve their bowl or NC chances but a loss knocks the conference out of the NC picture. If one division winner is a zero or one loss team and the other division winner is a two or more loss team you get lots of risk and no reward.

    I happen to like the championship games. As 85 says when you have conferences to large for everyone to play everyone else it is hard to call someone a champion when they haven't played the best from the other side of the conference.
     
  8. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    I thought a lot of these new TV contracts had conference game tie ins as part of the agreement? Probably wrong, but I am sure that could be a hang up to change this.

    You've also seen plenty of teams go on to the MNC due to a conference championship game. With as big as these conferences are now, I am not sure how you do it unless you add more conference games.
     
  9. TimmyDUBs

    TimmyDUBs Dirty haole Club Member

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    open the playoffs to more teams.
     
  10. boydbuff

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    Hate the idea of no conference champs. What happens if you have one team from each the north and south or east and west or whatever team that went undefeated in their league play? Who won the conference and who should represent the conference in the playoffs?

    But as Timmy says expanding he playoffs, that might make up for it and even allow for 2 teams from same conference to compete in the playoffs.
     
  11. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    Read again. The ACC and Big 12 aren't talking about getting rid of the conference championship games. The talking about getting rid of the requirement of having 2 divisional alignments and putting the 2 teams with the best record in the CCG.

    From a link in the article:

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...nship-games-would-change-postseason-structure
     
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  12. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    They don't need to worry about that.
     
  13. FrankRizzo

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    I'm not sure if I like this with the 14 team Big Ten and SEC.
     
  14. hokiehead

    hokiehead Gobbler on the Mountain Club Member

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    Good point -- my thread title and focus was on one of multiple scenarios. thanks for the clarification.

    Thought more about this last night and one obvious point escaped me yesterday -- there is a strong precedent for this. For years, the Big Ten and Pac 10 did quite well crowing a conference champion with a league schedule that didn't have each team playing each other. The difference is that instead of 10 - 11 team conferences we now have 12 - 15 team conferences, so I acknowledge the imbalance increases by scale.
     
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    Why is it that I immediately thought of THAT school when I read the OP?

    Maybe they're worried that their eventual victories over SMU, Rice, La Tech (in their limp dick conference) that set them coasting into the playoffs (based on media popularity and polls) could be upended by those (heathen christians in green) from Baylor in a conf championship game.

    IF there ever was one since they can't find 12 members. :rofl:

    Or, is that their worried about being the 12 seed having to play the 1 seed because they dont have a CCG thus watering down their position in the polls?

    Actually, I think their just worried that their limp dick team might actually lose a CCG to someone like, um KSU? And that annoying little aberration might cost them a trip to said playoffs. Oh darn.
     
  16. skibum

    skibum Peed in your Cheerios. Club Member

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    Wait, what? Big Ten yes, but I'm pretty sure that the Pac-10 always had everyone play everyone else until the expansion to 12 (hence the 9 conference games).
     
  17. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    The Pac-10 didn't start having a 9-game conference schedule until 2006
     
  18. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    The Big 12 doesn't want a conference championship game because they believe it unnecessary eliminates a team from the championship picture.

    1996 - #3 Nebraska loses to Texas, misses chance at championship.
    1998 - #2 KSU loses to Texas A&M, misses chance at championship.
    2001 - #3 Texas loses to Colorado, misses chance at championship.
    2003 - #1 Oklahoma loses to KSU, back doors into championship.
    2007 - #1 Mizzou loses to OU, misses chance at championship.

    Under the new 4-team playoff system, if two Big 12 teams finish ranked in the top 4, a conference championship game might eliminate one of those teams from playoff consideration.
     

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