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Notre Dame student dies off a collapsing tower that was used to film fb practice

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  1. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Supposedly after the tower fell, the team continued practicing for 30 minutes afterward. The kid had some chilling tweets before and during filming practice

    Supposedly the towers are only supposed to hold up to 25 mph wind, not 50 or 60 mph.


    Awful tragedy. Not sure what the answer is here. Seems pretty reckless by the ND coaching staff to put this kid in that position. Of course I guess you could say the kid could have came down. Thoughts and prayers to the family.

    more from the tribune.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...e-fatal-accident-102820101027,0,1166825.story
     
  2. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

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    At least they are showing some commitment to football.
     
  3. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    Yikes, that is terrible.
     
  4. RuffBuff

    RuffBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Very sad and tragic. My thoughts and prayers are with his family.
     
  5. InTheBuff

    InTheBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Can you say lawsuit ?

    I knew you could.
     
  6. PhillyBuff

    PhillyBuff Club Member Club Member

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    That will come... but nothing brings this kid back... anyone responsible for this should be fired. This is a tragedy that with common sense could have been avoided.
     
  7. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    ND has deep pockets. I wonder if they might try to pre-empt a lawsuit with a large cash payment to avoid the negative publicity?
     
  8. CUFan

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    This is a disgrace. A lawsuit doesn't bring this kid back.
     
  9. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Wow. I had heard about the incident, but didn't know much of the details. This is the kind of thing that would get a whole slew of people fired at a public university. Being at ND, they may be able to sweep it under the rug with a huge cash settlement. It's going to have to be huge, though. There's some definite culpability here. Plus, where does the settlement come from? The athletic department budget? The general operating budget for the school? Some kind of insurance policy?

    Bad, bad stuff.
     
  10. boulder77

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    I truly hope that you were trying to be "clever" with this comment. Because, if this is the type of "commitment" that you are looking for, you should be ashamed.
     
  11. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    Went to Notre Dame...stood on top of high towers...seems he was trying to get as close to Heaven as he could. God decided to do him one better.
     
  12. Buffalo Brad

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    Wow, there could be charges filed if he was required to go up. Sounds a bit disturbing.
     
  13. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    This is on HC Brian Kelly and AD Jack Swarbrick.

    Wouldn't be at all surprised if the NCAA doesn't jump in, too.

    Thoughts and prayers to the family and friends of Declan Sullivan.
     
  14. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    The kid clearly didn't want to be up there. Makes me think there had to be somebody supervising him who made him think he didn't have the choice to come down. Presumably that person is a ND employee, which is a very bad thing for the school. It's going to be interesting to see just how close that person is to HCBK and ADJS. And just how far and how fast they can move away from him....
     
  15. DBT

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    My youngest is 20. I just can't imagine what the youn man's parents are going through. I will tell you this, if it were me, I'd want to freaking kill someone.
     
  16. SCB

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    If ND has so much money, why not have an automated camera up there? Why send a student?
     
  17. buffsroam

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    I worked the same job as this kid when I was at CU. It is not a bad job by the way. We had to work on one lift like this one and one fixed tower (a lightning rod). I was not fun in moderate winds let alone these types of winds. Anyway I feel sorry for this kid and his family.
     
  18. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Finally. A Catholic scandal that doesn't involve clergy.

    Just hope ND learned some lessons about transparency over the last decade and deals with this head-on.
     
  19. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    Dude, not cool. ;)
     
  20. DrunkPanda

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    what i don't understand is why the kid didn't just climb down. if i was in that situation and somebody tried to make me stay up there, i'd tell them to **** off and leave.
     
  21. Daaah

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    Too busy tweeting.
     
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    Exactly...he supposedly tweeted..."holy ****, hold ****, this is terrifying!" Then GET DOWN! Both the school and the kid were at fault.

    Dumb. Shouldn't have happened.
     
  23. azbuff

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    My guess is the kid didn't want to look like a complainer or a quitter and just figured he'd be okay. And maybe he put a little faith in the decision making ability of the adults that sent him up there.
     
  24. sackman

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    This.

    At that age, you pretty much do what you're told to do. If he had climbed down, he would have been fired from whatever job he was doing. He had to weigh the certainty of getting fired against the possibility of being blown over by a big gust of wind. He probably had aspirations of getting a job after school for an athletic department somewhere. Hard to say I would have done anything differently, unfortunately.
     
  25. Highflyer

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    I'll be shocked to find out he was actually getting paid to do this. This sounds like a intern/volunteer deal.
     
  26. Buffarino

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    Could be a minimum wage work study type job, too. I worked for the volleyball coach in college for my work study.
     
  27. AlferdJasper

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    On some of these lifts, you get on them at ground level and they scissor up to their height. Like a cherry picker, there is no ladder down.
    Like this one (similar to what CU uses):
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    If that's the case, he could not have climbed down, he would have to be dependent on somebody lowering him. I don't know that is what happened, but it is true for some camera platforms. We don't know whether or not he was calling or texting or asking anyone to LOWER him, either.

    Somebody on the ground should have been aware of the danger. There should be a maximum wind allowed.

    Very very sad news.
     
  28. DBT

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    Four stories. Man. Just senseless.
     
  29. HornBuff

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    Tragic, tragic, tragic.

    But I don't like the idea of always looking for a villain in these situations, the blame game. It's a tradegy and this happens. He's 20 years old, a man, not a kid. Why did he not come down? You have to use common sense and not just assume someone else is always looking out for you...or has planned for every contingency in life with you in mind. There is probably blame enough to be spread around, but ultimately life is crazy and uncontrollable to a larger degree then we would like to admit. Bad stuff happens. I can't imagin being his parents.
     
  30. OKCBuff

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    Absolutely terrifying and heartbreaking. God speed to that family and prayers as well.

    This image puts the fear into the situation. This was literally his last comment to his family and friends. :(

    [​IMG]

    And yes, he was on a scissor lift.
     

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