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O-line vs D-line

Discussion in 'University of Colorado Recruiting Archive' started by XIIfan, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. XIIfan

    XIIfan Member

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    I don't think anyone would disagree that both the O and D-line make or break a team over the course of a season. I think many of our disappointments over the past few seasons (almost a decade really)on both sides of the ball can be directly linked to the lines. What I can't figure out though is why we can have NFL caliber linemen and still not have a successful line. Is it possible for a single O-lineman to be a game changer like a dominant DT can be? Do they need to play more as a unit to be successful rather than just a crazy kick-***** beast up the middle? We seem to be targeting more of a "right fit" for OT and OG but beasts for the DL. Thoughts?
     
  2. MtnBuff

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    Lot of stuff here.

    A single dominant D-lineman with decent support can make a huge impact on a game. The corresponding great O-linemen is much easier for a defense to scheme around and negate impact.

    Also as you said, the O-line is very much a unit that requires all parts to work together. If a player in the D-line doesn't perform on a play the cost to the team can be minimized by the other defensive players, even if the play goes after his responsiblities.

    On the other hand if the whole O-line works except one part, the play is still potentially blown up.
     
  3. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    OL cohesion is more important than DL cohesion.

    As far as this recruiting class, we just have not gained much traction in OL recruiting. It has little to do with us being selective.
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    On the OL, there is definitely a prototype we are looking for. Marshall wants 6'5" guys with long arms, good feet, and a nice base. He'll develop them from there. The only real selectivity has been related to guys who are too short for us or not athletic enough. With the highly-rated guys, this isn't an issue and we have simply missed.
     
  5. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Better land start landing some OL (Davidson, Cyburt, Siragusa) Although I don't think we're in the lead for any of them
     
  6. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    While it is never good to whiff on so many OL in one class, we can absorb the blow a little bit because of what we signed in the last class. Makes next year pretty important in that regard though.
     
  7. 4DemBuffs

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    can you explain that a bit more for those of us who are not as up to date on recruiting and depth as you are, please. what are you seeing with the last class that makes you think this? thanks!
     
  8. Ozbuff

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    I'm still holding out hope for a couple of O linemen. I still don't understand how we whiffed on all the in-state guys (unless we get an unexpected change before signing day). I never expected to get all of them, but to get none is puzzling. You'd think at least one of them would be attracted by what CU offers.
     
  9. buffsyko

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    The OL and DL are important?​ Interesting.
     
  10. 4DemBuffs

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    well, it is tuesday.
     
  11. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Not BB but I think it's partially due to #'s. We brought in 5 OL last year (Nembot, Asiata, Mustoe, Lewis, and Cotner). Asiata and Lewis will probably start next year, and Nembot looks like a future stud at Tackle. 3 good young OL... but we still need some OL this class... as we do every year
     
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    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    Unit. Nuff said

    Another point (by extension) is I care less about star-ratings wilt OL than any other position by far. 5 star guys are generally just more physically ready at 18. Miller vs Bahtiari.

    A big, explosive DL is God given. Big fast WRs or tall strong-armed QBs.... Tall CBs who can be physical and run 4.4s.... All gifted. You have it or you don't. Most other positions there are less differences between 2 and 5 stars. IMO.
     
  13. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    I'm just glad Embree is emphasizing recruiting the OL/DL. Hawk did ok at OL... but his DL recruiting was terrible. Only taking one DL in the 08' class (Cunningham) and Poston/Poole a diff class is just BAD
     
  14. 4DemBuffs

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    thanks. that is pretty much what i was looking for. mostly i was wondering if any of the guys listed from last years class were serious contenders for PT and if they had some real potential. i appriciate the feedback.
     
  15. bigbang2

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    I would be happy with 1 more OL and 2 more DL

    Wish list

    Davidson-OT
    Borne-DT
    Breslin DE



    Depth next year


    LOT- Bakhtiari(sp), Nembot, Davidson
    LOG- Asiata, Munyer or crabb, Irwin
    C- Handler, Kelly or Cotner
    ROT- Munyer or Crabb, Kelly or Cotner, Kough
    ROT-Daniewitz or Harris, Mustoe, lewis


    DE- Uzo Diribe, Jagne, Stuart
    DT- Pericak, Borne,Henington
    DT- Solis, Topou, Bonsu,
    DE- Breslin, Juda Parker, Wilson
     
  16. BigCate

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    Is Davidson going to visit?
     

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