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Offer the house to Shanny

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by GoDonkeys!, Oct 18, 2015.

  1. GoDonkeys!

    GoDonkeys! New Member

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    Don't laugh. This is what we need or someone similar. Here's my reasoning:

    1. We need a real coach that kids will respect.
    2. We need a coach with NFL pedigree to get top athletes that wants to go to NFL to really consider CU.
    3. We need a new offensive scheme. Sorry but watching a CU game is like watching a high school football game. Just watch Bama on a TV at same time CU is playing and you will notice. We must get away from this stupid spread/zone read crap.
    4. Shanny is not that old either. Carrol is way older and rumor is he wants back in CFB. Would much rather have Shanny.
    5. He would get top assistants with NFL experience to come.
    Things that worry me:
    1. Can kids learn his system?
    2. Would CFB be enough for Shanny to stay interested?
    3. How would he do in a 'fund raising' type of role?
    This is NOT saying fire MM now. It's just saying it's time to really look at MM and what he brings and evaluate whether it's going to take CU to where it needs to go.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. TSchekler

    TSchekler Darth's Hero Club Member

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    If you have me the choice between Shanahan and Pete Carrol, it's Carrol all day.
     
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    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Jens1893 Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    When did Shanahan last recruit someone excluding his wife?
     
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    Offer other choices that bring NFL caliber to program. That's really what we need. These coaches that have only coached high school and college are not answer is all I'm saying. Nothing wrong with having a college system, but I'm saying get to NEXT level like a Bama and quit with this high school offense.

    Recruiting is mostly done by assistants anyways, but I guarantee you when Shanny walks in and talks to your kid, you're listening. We need to make a bold move is all I know. Pete Carrol is not coming to CU. No way in hell he comes here. He would only return to a team already in the Top 20 so he could get them to contention quick.

    Maybe other choices: Mariucci, Billick, Fassel or maybe GASE. Hell, I don't know, I just know we need to change. These facilities are beautiful and recruits will come.
     
  7. sackman

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    No thanks.

    Unless you're talking about Kyle, and in which case, my answer is… No thanks.
     
  8. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I'm a big Shanahan fan, but no thanks.

    You lost me at the "stupid spread/zone read crap" comment. That is our most logical path back to respectability.
     
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    We are a couple hours away from the first Dave Logan for coach post.
     
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    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    Like Embree and Bienemy?
     
  11. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Hiring NFL guys rarely works. In fact, I think it worked once - Pete Carroll. Remember that Carroll was USC's third or fourth choice. The guy in my avatar was considered a very solid NFL coach and he nearly bankrupted the CU athletic department.

    I really don't think CU is going to be hiring a new coach anytime soon. Maybe in November 2016, but probably not before then. When the time comes, I honestly hope we can get a guy with a proven track record of success at the D-1 level. Not just a one year flash in the pan kind of success. A guy who has built a program and sustained it. Of course we have such a guy already on our staff. He's just not the head coach.
     
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    OMG. Ban this thread!
     
  13. GoDonkeys!

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    Leavitt is probably next coach, i agree. I just want a more NFL system. Spread/Zone Read is a fricking joke. Play football not HS football. It's ruining football. Why do you think rookie QB's suck in NFL? Because they never take snaps under center. It's a farce!!!!
     
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    Not until we have a QB who is a legit threat to keep the ball.
     
  15. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I only care about what works at the COLLEGE level as it pertains to CU. If you do not, sounds like a personal preference, not a sound way to build a football program.
     
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  16. GoDonkeys!

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    You buff fans are ridiculous. You wonder why the stadium has 10K empty seats every game. You think just getting facilities is going to get recruits. Well news flash EVERYONE HAS FACILITIES!!!!! We need a real coach and system. Until then, have fun wallowing in bottom of Pac12 South.
    I'm sure a top HS QB recruit is going to come to CU when he watches the same offense he is playing in HS. Fricking Joke!!! Try to get a discussion going on a topic and you ftards turn it into something else. YACFO!!!
     
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    See what you did, Duff. Geeze!
     
  19. GoDonkeys!

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    And we can't use the 'It's too hard to get into CU crap'. If Stanford can compete, no reason we can't. Oh wait, Stanford runs a pro style offense... Oh and they had the last legit bonafide nfl QB to get drafted......
     
  20. Duff Man

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    No one is arguing it does not work in some places, but you just seem fixated on a pro-style offense purely out of personal preference. Ohio State, Baylor, TCU, and others run "spread/zone read crap" but you would not take their success because of a personal preference? Why?
     
  21. AllStarBuffs

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    lmao this thread is stupid.

    Shanahan will never coach college ball. Please leave and go back to your looney planet GoDonkeys!
     
  22. GoDonkeys!

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    I'm saying I think if we go to a pro style system with a proven nfl mind, then we can get top recruits to come here. Maybe knowing they will be learning how to prepare for NFL will help get some better players. As far as the top programs in college that run spread etc., we are already too far behind and can't get those athletes from those schools. Everyone is running spread/zone read, thus if we went the way of Stanford/Bama maybe we can improve quality of talent.

    When it's all said and done, talent is going to win. Shanny didn't win without talent. But it takes a good coach/system to get most out of the talent.
     
  23. Creebuzz

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    Not to split hairs here, but the spread offense was originally designed for smaller programs that couldn't recruit on the level with other blue blood programs. The conventional thinking is that a "pro style" offense takes longer to develop and requires a higher level of overall talent to execute.
     
  24. Duff Man

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    I get the reasoning, but I would counter that even pro-style offenses with top talent can struggle at the college level. Stanford basically won 8 games last season via defense. Bama made the playoffs incorporating some spread concepts.
     
  25. GoDonkeys!

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    I just see talent gap. Want to figure out how to get top talent. QB, OL is very bad.
     
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    I'd offer Belotti or the Vest.
     
  27. Idot Buff

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    FIFY
     
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    I have said it before and will say it again, the smartest thing McCartney ever did was go to the triple option. You might not win the the National Championship with it but you can for sure move the program back to respectability. Then if you could find a Vince Young type you could win the whole thing. Dual threat or true option QB's are far easier to get then the true pro-style passers, all you have to do is look at the NFL QB play to know how few there really are. If my goal at this point was to at least be in the conference conversation (a la Barney) 7-9 wins a year, and once a decade maybe 10 or 11 wins. Then once you upgrade the talent if you want to slide the O to a spread with more throwing involved you have the talent to do it. If I was looking for a guy that might be able to do that I would at least look at Navy's Ken Niumatalolo.
     
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  29. EddieCrowder

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    They both are simply to old to take on this kind of project, We should have tried to get Tressel when we hired Embry
     
  30. Clean Undies

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    Interesting choice to go after Shanahan. He knows the pro system and people in the mile high like him.
    Any discussion must also include a fair assessment of Dan Reeves, Red Miller, and Josh McDaniels, too.

    Peyton Manning really nailed that Nationwide insurance commercial. Does anyone know what Peyton had for breakfast this morning?
     

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