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Organizational Comparison - Buffs and Broncos

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by dio, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    I like to compare the Buffs current situation to the situation that the Broncos faced 3 years ago.

    Obviously, comparing the the nuances of a college program against a pro program is difficult. However, the organizational philosophy isn't.

    One one hand you have the Buffs. You have an administration that plays politics and is utterly incompetent. You have a 'yes man' for an Athletic Director - and man with very little vision, or at least any ability to communicate the vision. You have a department that is unable to connect with fans and donors in any meaningful way. Worst of all, your administration and your athletic department are paralyzed with fear, and they're incapable of learning from past mistakes. They are currently poised to make the same mistake for a 4th time in 7 years by keeping a coach who has clearly shown that he isn't the answer. Barnett, Patton, Hawkins, Embree. Each one has ended up (or will end up) causing further damage to the program.

    Conversely, you have the Broncos. An organization that has traditionally sought excellence. After getting mired in mediocrity by holding onto a once great coach, they made an important move. They cut the cord with a Denver legend in Mike Shanahan. They hired a young, up and coming offensive coordinator in Josh McDaniels. McDaneils blew the team up - but within 2 years it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that McDaniels was a failure. He wasn't getting it done on gamedays, he wasn't getting it down in the locker room, and he wasn't getting it done with the coaches he hired for his staff. However, it would have been easy for Broncos leadership to say 'well, we need to give him one more year to build his team'. But the Broncos recognized that he wasn't the guy, and that they made a mistake. They also recognized that the mistake was caused by a void in the executive office. They canned McDaniels, hired an eminently qualified John Elway (and not because he was a former Bronco), and then they let him get to work building the team. Since he arrived and began his rebuilding effort, the Broncos have gone 8 -8 with a playoff victory, and so far this year they landed a HOF QB, sit at 7 - 3 with a 3 game lead in their division.

    It is an amazing juxtaposition to look at over the past 7 years. One organization has a commitment to winning - the other doesn't. One has developed a coherent vision for the team - the other hasn't. One organizations is willing to make hard decisions (especially with people long associated with the org) - the other organization won't.
     
  2. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Well, but McDaniels was white. And not a former Bronco. So no Broncos 4 life and no worries about firing him and having the race card thrown in their face. Where is that damned font again?

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  3. Timbuff10

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    I really can't imagine anyone pulling the race card when the results have been this bad. Even talking about it is bad becuase it puts it in the school's mind if they are trolling on this stuff. No way race should be any part of this when you are getting beat by 50+ points every week and not one thing in the program is trending upward.
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    If John Elway was the Broncos coach and went 1-15 while setting franchise and NFL records for futility along with botching free agency and the draft... the same local sports writers and radio talk show hosts who are carrying water for Embree would be absolutely crucifying Elway and wanting him fired. And Elway was the one guy with enough juice in this town to run Tebow out.
     
  5. manhattanbuf

    manhattanbuf Well-Known Member

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    Compare CU to the Rockies.


    1. The team is seen primarily as a revenue source for disinterested figureheads.
    2. Fans still attend games as social events even when the team is effing miserable.
    3. The squad is talented in some spots; but, the organization is totally devoid of leadership who focus on putting their people in positions to succeed.
    4. Local media outlets suck the tit of the team's PR department in how they respond to abject failure.


    Sound familiar?


    The NFL is all about winning and doing so ASAP. The stakes are too high since the business thrives on fan support. The University of Colorado will proceed regardless of the football team's successes or failures. The happy feelings many of us have about our alma mater are shared by those who despise the football team, but tolerate it because it brings in $$$. The admin sees our loyalty and pounces. They do not care about football in the same way that other places do because most folks have other things to do. The local media is not concerned about the Buffs' success level because it doesn't drive ratings.


    BTW, race does matter in the case of the time leash given to Embo. He has failed miserably so far and will be judged appropriately. To say that racism isn't a major problem at the University of Colorado, though, is patently false. That makes the Embo matter complicated. CU is a bastion of whiteness. Whether that has played into Embo's failure is unknown to me. But, in our culture, white people do get more chances to succeed after they fail. Labeling that as "playing the race card" is pretty well reflected in the privilege of whiteness. For non whites, successes are often minimized; failures are maximized. In spite of what the conservative media may tell you, this is the more common occurrence.


    I do not think Embo should be retained. But, I also find it to be a valid critique that we have given white coaching failures longer terms to correct their failures. We should use this as a watershed moment to be aware of how race affects our decision-making and proceed appropriately.
     
  6. FlatironsBuff

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    Didn't Ringo already say he would bring it up?

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  7. Darth Snow

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    Elway was hired because he was a bronco. fact.
     

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