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Pac-12 Bracketology

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Shldr2Shldr, Feb 26, 2012.

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Would you rather have:

  1. CU as #4 seed and a first round bye

    31 vote(s)
    88.6%
  2. CU as #5 seed and a game against USC

    4 vote(s)
    11.4%
  1. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    If the tournament were tomorrow, here is how I am pretty sure the seeding would work out with tiebreakers

    #1 UW plays #8/#9
    #2 Cal plays #7/#10
    #3 Zona plays #6/#11
    #4 CU plays #5/#12

    #5 Oregon
    #12 USC

    #6 UCLA
    #11 Utah

    #7 Stanford
    #10 ASU

    #8 WSU
    #9 OSU


    Our first game could be interesting, assuming we would have to play Oregon for a third time. However moving past that round I dont see anyone I am afraid of. UW, OSU, and WSU have all looked bad against us. The greatest thing about our bracket is we most likely won't have to deal with Stanford.
     
  2. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Gonna take a solid effort on the road this week to avoid the 5 seed.

    Arizona only has @ ASU left, and Oregon of course has CU and Utah at home. So, we've got the most difficult path to a 13-5 finish.
     
  3. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    A win on thursday locks it up for us.
     
  4. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    True, but I like Oregon's positioning given that it's a home game for them. Although given how they've played on the road this year, maybe it's a good thing that we're facing them in Eugene.
     
  5. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Lucky for us they have been better on the road than at home. If we play thursday like we did tonight, I dont know who beats us. Hopefully they can keep clicking for the next few weeks
     
  6. CVilleBuff

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    Need to get the win not only to get the 4 seed, but also to end this ****ing ridiculous notion among many that Dana Altman is somehow deserving of Pac-12 COY. Oregon was picked preseason to finish 5th, and here they are basically...well,...5th. Even if the Buffs lose, it would be criminal to not give Tad COY honors.
     
  7. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    What scenario would put CU at #1?
     
  8. FrankRizzo

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    It involves Washington losing to UCLA and USC...
     
  9. GoBuffs!!

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    Washington could very easily lose at UCLA, but USC is pretty bad, they wont lose there.
     
  10. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    Altman is getting COY consideration? Uh, why?
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    It's a good question. Oregon has lost a lot of close games and also had prize recruit leave the program after the season started to transfer to Mizzou.
     
  12. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I can't figure it out. But you keep seeing people saying that PAC-12 COY will either be Boyle or Altman. I like Altman and think he's a great coach, but if anyone other than Boyle wins it, it's a joke.

    I kind of would like to vote for Krystowiak to get the COY award though. I mean, Utah's won 6 games. That's roughly 5 more than I thought they'd win after the game with them on December 31st.
     
  13. Bone Buff

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    Just checking, is a sweep this weekend plus a Arizona loss @ ASU (unlikely) the only way for us to move up to the #3?

    edit: Guess a loss by Cal @ Stanford, or Washington getting swept on the road will move us up too.
     
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  14. sackman

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    We'd be better off with the #5 seed. Get that first game against a dog sh*t USC team and then play Oregon in the next round anyway. We're going to be playing UO regardless, we might as well get the extra win in the process.
     
  15. dio

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    I'd rather have the game off.... remember how gassed the players were in the B12 tourny last season?
     
  16. Bone Buff

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    Pass. I'd rather have fresher legs. We have a shot to win that tournament.
     
  17. MrFrumpylane

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    This. Buffs have blown out the top two teams by double digits.
     
  18. buff190

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    Beat me to it Sacky. I think I would almost prefer the extra game. Although it would be another chance to lose, I think we take USC.
     
  19. sackman

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    You mean after they won two games and eventually lost to eventual champion Kansas in the third round?
     
  20. Bone Buff

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, (and I'm not trolling here) but I thought we're all working off the assumption there's no way we're making the big dance without winning the Pac-12 tourney.
     
  21. sackman

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    As I see it, I think we have a better chance of beating Oregon if we're coming off a game the previous day. The teams from 1-3 don't scare me as much as Oregon does. I actually think we have a better chance of winning the tournament as a 5 seed than a 4 seed. We play at altitude, fresh legs aren't going to be a problem for us. Remember?
     
  22. buffs

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    You have support: Hard to argue against Tad Boyle as Pac-12 COY. CU over Cal handily for 11th league win.
     
  23. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Being the 5th seed wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I'm sure as hell not going to hope we lose one of our last 2 games.

    I want to go into the P12C at 21-9 and winners of 5/6.

    We're still considered to be on the NCAA bubble by the big sites.
     
  24. Bone Buff

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    Better chance to beat Oregon maybe. I think it hurt our chances for a potential finals game though on Saturday. Altitude or not, 4 games in 4 days is a lot.
     
  25. CVilleBuff

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    Sixth team out in Lunardi's bracket. Last 4 in: Miami, Xavier, Texas, Northwestern. First 4 out: South Florida, St. Joseph's, VCU, Colorado State. Next 4 out: Oregon, Colorado, Dayton, Central Florida
     
  26. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    For those of you who haven't been a huge basketball follower until recently, there are a couple things you want to know about the bracketology and the S-Curve that Lunardi uses.

    1. He's been really accurate. It's how he got the ESPN job.
    2. Being in the "Last 4 In" probably = Out. This is because the methodology assumes that all regular season conference champs win their tournaments. That won't happen. We'll see a mid-major or two steal an extra bid through a conference tourney upset. We'll also see an upset or two in the conference tourneys from multi-bid leagues that will knock teams off the bubble.

    If we keep winning, we'll be in the conversation and have reason to tune in on Selection Sunday. But we have a lot of work to do and need to catch a number of breaks.
     
  27. Shldr2Shldr

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    Much rather be the 4 seed and give USC the shot at an upset in the first round. Oregon plays very tough on the road, for some reason they have been softer at home, so i will wait to really pass judgement until Friday, but I like our shot a lot better with another day of rest/scouting
     
  28. Bone Buff

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    Mods, I think we're gonna need a poll:

    Would you rather:
    CU get a #4 seed and first round bye
    CU get a #5 seed and draw SC in the opening round
     
  29. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Pollified. And I voted for #4 seed. I gave my reasons in the This Week in BasketBuffs thread.
     
  30. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Facing/Beating USC in the 5/12 game does absolutely nothing. It does nothing for the resume (wouldn't raise our RPI one spot). We need to win this conference tournament to get in, and it becomes astronomically harder to do that with 4 games in 4 days as opposed to 3 games in 3 days.
     

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