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Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by allbuffs, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. allbuffs

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    By Adam Butler
    www.PacHoops.com



    I settled in to the last 5 to 10 minutes of that spicy little number at The Keg Sunday

    afternoon. I’d already received the ScoreCenter alert that the Buffs had been trailing a

    dozen at the break and had made some assumptions based simply on score: Harvard had

    dropped into a zone, limited the Buffs’ ability to run, and CU wasn’t hitting shots. My

    hypothesis was only semi-validated as CU was 4-10 from distance. Alas, half-by-half

    stats aren’t easily attainable so I’ll let my analysis of the first twenty rest there.


    Because the final few minutes that I saw, from the time Colorado was trailing 52-48

    off of a pair of Jelly free throws, I saw a terrific basketball team. All of the athleticism

    we discuss on the wings? They were crashing the glass, cleaning up rushed and forced

    Harvard shots taken from what a swarming and switching Buffalo defense would allow

    them. Maybe I won’t break down the halves, but the game that I saw had a final score

    of Colorado 23, Harvard 10. And those were the Buffaloes that I (if not we) have been

    touting as a top-25 team, fighting for a top-3 pac-12 finish, and the collective ability to

    dance on into the second weekend.


    I liked it. Adam liked it a lot because I’m a process guy and I’m not soon to get hung up

    on wins and losses so much as I am the execution of the game. I want to see progress

    within the process and that’s what I gathered from the close of that game. Because

    basketball is a 40 minute contest and basketball seasons are 30 games long. This isn’t

    college football where Oregon is now seemingly playing for nothing (Hey! Claw ‘em

    Cats, eh?). Because college hoops affords teams the time learn about themselves. Have

    you felt Tad’s substitutions have been a bit cavalier? He’s worked his way perhaps deep

    into an inexperienced bench even at the expense of fluid if not effective basketball? You

    think that experience is going to help during a nine-minute scoring drought in March?

    I sure do. Because inexeperience is the name of the game in Boulder and the beauty of

    having Spencer Dinwiddie, Askia Booker, and Josh Scott is that learning curve is so

    much more forgiving. It’s like an open note test. Those three “veterans” accounted for 41

    of the 70 Buffalo points and I’m not even including Xavier Johnson in the mathematics.

    He still strikes me as raw though maybe the most important player on the team. Ah hell,

    let’s just note that he indeed had 11/6 and the two biggest threes of the game. You see,

    open note test.


    And I can tell you right now, the test is going to have some tough questions on it that

    these Buffs might not have accounted for on that cheat sheet. (See: Smart, Marcus;

    Wiggins, Andrew). But with each time that ball is tipped, more notes are taken and the

    cheat sheet accumulates more and more notes. The test gets easier and easier and before

    you know it, we’re in the third month of the season when we tear up all the sheets and

    everything we thought we knew about everything and we fight to get to Dallas.

    As Always find Adam on Twitter:
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  2. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    The final 10 minutes were a thing of beauty. As much as I hate being in comeback situations, they sure are a whole lot of fun when they work out.

    I think the freshman may have learned a thing or two from the vets in that game and maybe some of that repetitive rhetoric from Coach will gain some traction and start making sense to the new kids. Defense wins games and it will win championships. Holding teams to 24% in a half will undoubtedly put you in a position to win each and every ball game you are in. We saw some explosiveness and some dominance in the paint. Good things to come from this team as we enter the heart of our OOC schedule. Going to both away games, and I can't wait to see them when they return home against those yappy birds from back east.
     
  3. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    We were lucky to come out of that on the other side with a W. We need Spencer to be more assertive.
     
  4. 4thGenBuff

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    So far Arizona Fans > Kansas Fans
     
  5. 89BUFF89

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    liked seeing jelly and spencer get aggressive...we need more of that.
     
  6. wyobuff

    wyobuff Well-Known Member

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    There was absolutely no way that jelly was going to let us lose that game. I could see that in his eyes from where I was sitting!
     
  7. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Let's hope that was a turning point and they can put together close to a complete game. We were lucky to get away with that abomination of a first half. We can't dig ourselves holes like that on the road. It appears we hit a new level and figured it out. Hoping we don't revert back.
     
  8. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    had to question Tad subbing him late when he became aggressive.
     
  9. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Man, some of the substitutions in that game...
     
  10. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Drunken & roided up Philadelphia Eagles fans with halitosis and tourettes syndrome wallowing in a six day old dirty diaper > Kansas Fans
     
  11. pachoops

    pachoops PacHoops Blogger

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    Well aren't you the sweetest damn thing.

     
  12. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Trust me, not the highest compliment in the world.
     
  13. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Uh. How to explain this? We love you and all, Pachoops, but this "compliment" is akin to you telling a fanbase that they're better than ASU fans in your book.
     
  14. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    That said, I do like the Zona fans. Except for the obvious trolls that every fanbase has, I've found them pretty damn smart and awesome to hang with.
     
  15. sackman

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    The problem we've had with Kansas fans is that CU never had much of a basketball program when we were in the Big 12. Until our very last year in that conference, we were a perennial doormat. We didn't give Kansas any reason to respect us. Arizona and the Pac 12, OTOH, is a much different situation.

    That KU game is going to be epic. We needed this Harvard game to sharpen our skills, IMO. The CSU game on the road will help with that, too. We need to be at our very best to win that game.
     
  16. azbuff

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    Zona fans in person are great, they are some of my best friends. Zona fans (other than PacHoops) on the Interwebs suck. I tried to have a reasonable conversation on pointguardu once. It was about something stupid, like how the name "CATS" didn't distinguish them from the 96 other NCAA schools using the name "Wildcats." I think the premise of the thread was something like they were THE "wildcats" (ignoring Northwestern, Villanova, et al.). Despite telling those ****heads right away that I was an Arizona alum, they were total idots. Such dicks, in fact, I vowed then and there to never give a dollar to UofA for anything. I plan on keeping that vow.
     
  17. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I made the mistake of reading the Comments on ESPN from after our Harvard win. I should know better. Every school's fans suck on there. Anyway, there was a Zona fan coming hard about how CU sucks since we could only beat Harvard by 8.

    My favorite with Zona fans, though, is the arguments with ASU fans. The best is when they start comparing respective party cred with stats about which school has more bars within easy walking distance of campus, wavemakers, relative merit of being close to Nogales, etc. :lol:
     
  18. absinthe

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    It is really cute it is like sitting in the Majors watching two kids in the Cape-league argue about who is better at baseball.
     
  19. CVilleBuff

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    I'd expect a fan base that takes basketball so seriously to know better about Harvard. Wildcat fans are ok as a group, I guess. There's obviously arrogance and inflated ego, but I'll act the same way if these last few years of ours ever ended up being the start of a 25 year run of success similar to theirs. I like Miller, but I do think he's a little soft and think that seeps into the mentality of their program. That's not to say they aren't a national contender, but I think killer instinct matters and I'm skeptical that they have it.
     
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  20. azbuff

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    UofA fans literally think they are the Duke of the West. Good thing they won in '97, otherwise they'd have nothing to hang on to. Can't wait until Miller craps the bed again this year and misses the Sweet 16.
     
  21. LaserDeathHawk

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    **** zona and **** their fans and **** ****ty refs and **** bad calls on obvious three pointers.

    the end.

    forever.
     
  22. Shldr2Shldr

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    Got into it with them during the offseason about who had the more difficult strength of schedule. All they had to point to really was Duke in the preseason NIT. I pointed out that, that game was not guaranteed as they both had to win 3 or 4 games to reach the championship game. I said that IF they play Duke then I give them the slight edge over our OOC since they have played more road games and more games out of Arizona than we will have, but if they miss Duke then there is no way their OOC would be more difficult, it would at most be on par with ours.

    Telling them that, you would have thought I had told them the holocaust never happened...
     
  23. 4thGenBuff

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    I will still love Colorado to emerge as the primary basketball rival to Arizona in basketball. It seemed impossible coming in to leap frog all the history Arizona has with other Pac schools. However, so far Colorado and Arizona have had some intense and meaningful on court battles. The Chen 3 pointer added a little pepper to the pot on the Colorado side. I think Colorado knocking Arizona out of the Pac 12 tournament in 2012 and the insanity that the keg has turned into have stung Arizona fans some. Hopefully, we can build on that.
     
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  24. Buffnik

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    There was a time when Zona put a target on UCLA's back. They still hate them even though they've surpassed them. But UCLA fans are so arrogantly apathetic that there's no room for intensity between fans.

    Now we're putting a target on Zona's back. Unlike UCLA, we actually show up for games loudly. Not all Zona fans respect us yet. Less are legitimately worried about us at this point. But I think to them we're a more fun rivalry. There's nothing enjoyable (except beating their asses) with having a basketball rivalry with UCLA. The other one is ASU, but for Zona fans that's more just a matter of hatred and proximity than it is respect.
     
  25. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Vegas made me dislike Arizona fans and New Mexico fans. Holy **** they were obnoxious. But like the scene from scarface, I need people like them.
     
  26. Shldr2Shldr

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    We have had enough meaningful games and they have been close, highly contested games 4 out of the 6 times we have played them, for UofA to be the team I am learning to love to hate. Their fans are similar to the nubs fans in that they think they are too good for us, but we have been much more competitive so far. I hope every year we battle them for the tournament crown and eventually for the conference crown. I hope we pull off the upset in tucson this year, that is probably the conference game I want the most. That will bring CU to the forefront in arizona's mind.

    **** the cats. I can't wait to watch the C-Unit make Sean Miller throw a tantrum on the scorer's table again.
     
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    I can't stand the Arizona "Bear Down" crap. The dying words of a student leader. Nice gesture, but too much.

    Their name is the Wildcats, not the Bears.

    Bearing down is what old people in the hospital do when they're taking a ****.
     
  28. Scotch

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    Trust the Man Adam. He knows of what he speaks.

    I agree we were lucky to get a win after the 1st half against Harvard. Extend that to the first 25 minutes really. Didn't seem to be much urgency until then. Now would be the time for the Buffs to find their mean streak.
     
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    Hey bearing down is not just for hospitals.
     
  30. azbuff

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    I will say one thing about UofA fans. They are 100% more tolerable than ASU fans.
     

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