Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Mick Ronson, Sep 22, 2010.
Sucks that we don't have a permanent facility with a running track yet....Best vegas bet on when we will break ground on one??? -- I say 4 years
yeah but where would they put it? the biggest downside of our campus is we don't have a lot of room.
the plans I saw had a permanent IPF with offices, weight room etc going in north of the NE corner of the stadium and east of the Dal Ward
price tag was around 70M
Isn't the long-term plan to build a new facility where Franklin Field is? I thought I read that somewhere.
i hope it's not Franklin Field, though that would be the obvious choice. bad enough the AD put a fence around it so it can be used twice a week (!) but your everyday students can't check out hotties sunbathing or throw the frisbee there anymore. i don't see why an indoor facility can't be built out on the intramural fields by Kittridge (they put sportgrass out there already--again, closing down the sunbathing/frisbee thing so flag football can be played 4 times a week--but, intramurals could still use it. the current bubble is used at night by several club teams and women's soccer). or: out by Potts Field. put the players on the Buff Bus....on the rare occasion they practice indoors. lotta kids do it to and from WillVill every day.
$70 million? Geez. It would take a herculean effort for us to come up with that kind of scratch.
Scroll down and you can see a rendering.--- It was in the proposed 2010 Master Plan. They wanted to do the whole thing at once..i.e. stadium suites, flatirons reno and practice facility. The estimated cost was 100-130 million for everything and we all know how that turned out since we just got the east side club seats. Not sure how much just the field house would cost but I know it wouldn't be cheap. My gues is 30-50 mil since they want to have an underground parking structure as well.
Yeah. Is franklin field the one between libby, baker, the music building, cheyho, willard, and farrand? No way can you put a building there. That's stupid. Tear down the building with that crappy pool and the basketball courts and put it in there. Or put it out by kittredge somewhere.
nah, that's Farrand Field--which just got an expensive facelift (to compensate for the elimination of the *other* places on campus you might throw a frisbee and honey-watch near the dorms, i suspect). Franklin is the field east of the stadium.
but, i'm against tearing down Carlson Gym. it has no purpose but it would be a crime to totally demolish the old architecture. you could renovate it inside (along with Balch imo, to make something useful to the AD).
Its to the east of the Stadium. I think you're talking about Farrand field.
http://www.sinkcombs.com/projects/planning/index.html - Honestly I like what they had planned here. They put it on top of the parking lot north of franklin field and Carlson is not totally destroyed just expanded/remodeled for the Flatirons club expansion.
Flatirons reno is in fact coming in short order based on my discussions with people at CU. So based on teh master plan we've gotten the following done/started:
Stadium Access improvements
Basket Ball Practice facilities
Potts filed reno
and have the Flatirons Club Reno up next.
Still a ton to go obviously but we are making some progress, here is the whole thing: http://fm.colorado.edu/planning/documents/athletics_masterplan.pdf
Good to hear. It needs the renovation.
If they are gunna put it on top of a parking structure, why not on top of that lot that is near the UMC? It's kinda an eyesore anyway.
Farrand Field is due west of Farrand Hall (hence the name) - Franklin Field is just East of Folsom - check a CU map
that also used to be an open area that was pretty nifty with students hanging out and such inna day. it had a name, but i can't remember. i never understood why they claim that space to parking and only built down 2 levels. like you say, if it's gonna be ugly might as well stack it up some more. seemed like a half-hearted effort with a high level of uglification in the mix.
yeah you are right, they either need to go down like 5 levels or up like 10 more and make it look decent.
okay here is a bigger image.
I like how they want to curve the seats on the south-east side of the stadium and the practice facility would be awesome there.
looking at the Vision pdf earlier, makes sense to move the recycling/facilities management stuff...there's a good amount of space down there and about an acre of heavy brush where they keep the big rocks they "as if they fell from the sky" place on campus and unused mispent chunks of concrete...and it would seem to me as far north as the indoor/track facility sits on the end of Franklin Field...they are gonna move some dirt a la the retaining walls north of the stadium, coaches parking lot...etc. i never thought about going east-west with the facility....might work and preserve some of the Franklin Field flava. though, i'm also sure that the FF bigtime donor gameday parking also argues for the continued existence of FF.
What about putting it across University in the grandview area? I know I lived in a house back there (which was totally awesome and the best place in all of Boulder to live) that was owned by the university. They carted the one across the street away and last I checked there was just an empty lot where it used to stand. I know the one I lived in was unoccupied last year. Seems many of those buildings could go.
I think they are already building something over there. I know there were debates about how tall the building over there was gonna be. Kind of behind that starbucks. I'm not 100% sure about this though...
that Grandview area has been a political football between the City and CU for years....even though CU owns the land. a lot of Boulder's "do-gooders" want the area preserved as historical sites. the new building, which is a bit of a barn dressed up in "CU style" has something to do with the Behavioral sciences building that is currently on Broadway about a block south of Starbucks.
every summer after school ends (while Boulderites aren't paying attention, one of the old houses turns into a gravel lot under cover of the night....one by one). i think land is too valuable in terms of it's new academic building potential to house a football practice facility...from CU's perspective. it's close enough to the Main campus/Norlin quad that it can be "collegey" without much work. and easily walkable for students going from class to class, mostly. aren't too many places like that left around the main campus. a football practice facility is going to look like a big ass shed you buy at Home Depot on about a 2500:1 scale. sitting up on that bluff with the "grand view" is way too visible for a gigantic Tuff Shed you can punt in.
And damn if living there wasn't the best ever. Nice big porch that looked out on the flatirons. Huge attic that "we weren't supposed to go up into" that we rented out. Absolutely NO police ever showed up despite monster parties that spilled well out into the yard. Nice secret path that went through the forest right and down the hill. Right across the street from campus. Aaand due to the parking nazi's being idiots the university actually told us it would be best to park our cars on the lawn of the english dept building next door.
Oh, and the house that was secretly taken away across the street from us ended up as one of those historic houses up at chataqua - so they don't just trash them.
But yea, if it's gunna look like a huge barn and look crappy, put it out on the east campus.
I can't wait till we get up to current times with bigger scoreboards.
I would also like to see the stadium become a complete bowl with seats connecting to Dal ward on each side. Maybe even put another ring in the south side as well.
I wouldn't mind seeing part of it stay open for ease of things like the bolder boulder and Ralphie running, in which case I'd like to see the northwest stay open, maybe even ad a few more ****ty seats there for visitors.
You should want Franklin Field parking to be preserved or I would suspect everyone would get a nice downgrade in their parking spots as a result. Would be an awful waterfall effect that would piss a lot of people off.
Oh and I would love to have permanent stadium seats someday instead of bleachers, although that probably cuts the stadium capacity down.
well, update from my bike ride home. the white tarpish external skin of the bubble has been laying flat on the sport-grass part of the practice field for about 48 hours now. my buddy who lives in Newton Court says they've tried to inflate it a couple times...only to stop and re-group. he says it doesn't look like anyone knows what they are doing....that the crew looks like a bunch of hungover undergrads that spend a lot of time standing around in groups, mingling aimlessly.
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