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Proposed rules changes

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by cubuffs85, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. cubuffs85

    cubuffs85 Active Member

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/98473/rules-committee-talks-changes

    Sign me up for this one - I'd do 30.

     
  2. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I'd love to go to 30, but it's debatable how it would affect Tadball.
     
  3. torerobuff

    torerobuff Dancing is forbidden Club Member

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    Two on there I hate: The backcourt 10 second proposal, and considering NBA continuation. Strongly dislike both of those. Everything else I think is reasonable.

    Rule change I'd like to see considered: not stopping play on a shot clock violation when the defensive team has clear control. Penalizes the defense and prevents fast break opportunities.
     
  4. jcatcher

    jcatcher Club Member Club Member

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    I'm in favor of all of them, especially in regards to timeouts.

    The continuation play is problematic in the way different refs rule it, but you shouldn't be able to kill a good play by hacking a guy on a drive at the free throw line.
     
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  5. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    See, I LOVE the 10 second proposal. I hate that teams can call a time out and get bailed out after 8 seconds back there. Make them work for it.
     
  6. RollTad21

    RollTad21 Club Member Club Member

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    I agree with this. I don't understand why it is reset. Very much a bailout for the offense. Not to mention it seems like the refs just look at the shot clock anyway. There were a few times in the tourney where the refs mistakenly made a 10 second call because the shot clock hit 25, forgetting that the offense had called a timeout. I'm most in favor of this one actually.

    The continuation I don't like, but it seems like refs are started to call it even though it wasn't a rule last year.

    Not being able to score if a charge is called is one that doesn't ever seem to be called anyway (i.e. count the basket, but offensive foul) so not sure it would change much.

    I like the 30 second shot clock because it means more possessions.
     
  7. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I would think that it would improve defensive efficiency numbers a bit while somewhat raising overall scoring. Token pressure in the backcourt and teams would have about 20 seconds to find a shot from the time they got the ball up to within 25 feet of the rim.
     
  8. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I do think our defense would be benefitted by it. However, we struggle on offense to find a good look as it is with 35. Probably cancels each other out.
     
  9. jcatcher

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    In the halfcourt, somewhat. The Buffs actually average 17.8 seconds per offensive possession, slightly faster than the D1 average, which is 18 seconds.
     
  10. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Gotta be offset by when we can get out in transition...and the occasional contested shot 6 seconds into a possession.
     
  11. jcatcher

    jcatcher Club Member Club Member

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    Yeah, you're right, but even the slowest team in the country (Delaware State) only take an average of 22 seconds to take a shot. If you can't get a good look in 30 seconds, you're probably not going to get one with 35.
     
  12. SECOBuffsFan

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    I really hope the 10 second reset is eliminated....punishes good defensive effort...may entice more teams to go full court pressure which speeds up the game as well

    Shot clock at 30 makes a lot of sense....will force teams to get into their offense sooner (I am looking at you CU)
     
  13. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I definitely think a 30 second shot clock increases CU's home court advantage by pushing the pace of the game.
     
  14. SECOBuffsFan

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    Any chance Boyle goes to more full court pressure...even without Dinwiddie we have a lot of depth and would think that pushing the defense to 94 feet would be of great benefit to us defensively and increase easy offense
     
  15. Buffenuf

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    You want a real increase in the pace and scoring? Go to the 30 sec. SC and eliminate the full shot clock re-set after the offensive team regains possession in the forecourt.

    Why should the offense get another full thirty seconds when the ball is already in the forecourt? The shot clock anticipates 10 seconds it tales the bring the ball upcourt and when the shot clock is reset when the "O" regains possession, it is really a time waster, since the average team takes only 18 secs. to run its offense.
     
  16. DBT

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    I agree that the 30 second clock should help defensive efficiency by forcing the offense to speed up. However, if they widen the lane, wouldn't that kind of open up the offenses in the paint?
     
  17. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    How so? There's no prohibition against zone defense in college. The only thing a wider lane would change would be the 3 second rule on the offense, which would seem to have the effect of making the game even less about back-to-the-basket post players and more about jump shooters.
     
  18. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    NEVER ANSWER A QUESTION WITH A QUESTI0N!!

    What I was thinking, anyway, and I'm no basketball expert, is that widening the lane would create more space under the basket for guys to drive to the hoop. But you are right. On top of widening the lane, they'd have to add a defensive 3 second rule.
     
  19. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

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    Reducing the number of timeouts, and limiting a coach's ability to call one in-game? Sean Miller strongly disagrees.
     
  20. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    I'm not sure the refs could get that right. They have trouble calling the 3 second violation on the offense.

    Count me in the contingent who would love to see the 30 second shot clock. The other proposed changes are kinda meh.
     
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    I agree that the rule gets abused, but Royce O'Neale isn't a great example. His grandfather (who he is very close to) and his sister were both sick which led to his transfer, he picked Baylor b/c it was the closest to his hometown. He was also happy at DU, it wasn't like it was trying to get out of a situation and tried to use the rule as an easy escape.
     
  23. RollTad21

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    Hmm thought I had heard it was him. Either bad memory or bad information. I apologize. I know that it has happened before and for various other reasons. However, if CU can get an impact transfer that doesn't have to sit out before the rule change I won't complain.
     
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