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Quick Stat Breakdown from OSU Game

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Buffnik, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Turnovers: 14 each
    Rebounds: CU 41-29 (CU 18-6 on offensive glass)
    3pt Shooting: OSU 5/15 (15 pts, 33.3%), CU 6/22 (18 pts, 27.3%)
    2pt Shooting: OSU 20/33 (40 pts, 60.6%), CU 20/42 (40 pts, 47.6%)
    FT Shooting: OSU 23/35 (23 pts, 65.7%), CU 15/20 (15 pts, 75.0%)

    In general, CU did what it normally does. Earned a bunch of extra shots by winning the glass. What didn't happen that normally does is getting more FTs than the opponent.

    Buffs outscored OSU 58-55 from the field and were outscored by 8 from the line. 16 more FG attempts for CU, but 15 more FT attempts for OSU.

    FT disparity killed us. But the other big thing, actually the bigger thing, is that the Buffs allowed OSU to shoot 52.1% from the field. That was, by far, the worst defense the Buffs have played all season over the course of a 40 minute game.

    Individually, the other main issue was that OSU had 4 guys who were scoring and the Buffs only got good production from 3 guys.

    OSU
    Markel Brown - 23 points
    Marcus Smart - 18 points
    Phil Forte - 16 points
    Le'Bryan Nash - 15 points

    CU
    Josh Scott - 20 points
    Askia Booker - 19 points
    Spencer Dinwiddie - 18 points
    Next best was Fletch with 7.

    XJ only had 3 on 1/5 shooting. Wes only had 2 on 1/4 shooting.

    I think that's pretty much the story. Buffs played like ass on defense, didn't get to the line, and had most of their roster shut down.

    FWIW, on the Spencer vs. Smart stat comparison the Mayor more than held his own:

    Points: 18 each
    Assists: 3 each
    Steals: Mayor 2 / Smart 1
    Rebounds: Mayor 2 / Smart 0
    Turnovers: 2 each
    Fouls: Mayor 4 / Smart 2
     
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  2. GoonieBuff

    GoonieBuff Not really Club Member

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    Too bad the points off turnovers wasn't even like the turnovers stat.
     
  3. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    that defense was hard to watch. I like my #tadball.
     
  4. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

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    Defense really was the story last night. Not only did we give up a ton of easy buckets, but many of those were made worse by picking up soft fouls that led to a number of 3 point plays. This just looked like a young team who was focused on the holiday as much as the game.
     
  5. TDforTD

    TDforTD Banned BANNED Club Member

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    The defense was bad but it was also a case of being outexperienced. LeBryan Nash was a major recruit and he played like a junior vs a freshman against Gordon. It was bad but I don't blame Gordon for that. Smart is an incredible two way player who knows how to Harden his way to the FT line. He looks NBA ready and that's hard to stop. Brown is a senior.

    We rebounded well but around the 6 min mark, we could not grab a rebound and it killed us when trying to come back. Overall, I'm pleased we only lost by 5 to a way more experienced team who had a chance to win by 20.
     
  6. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Apparently we had John Higgins on the officiating crew last night. Notoriously awful. He's done 3 of our games this year: Baylor, Wyoming & Okie Lite.
     
  7. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    is there a way we can make sure he never does another game? I ****ing hate him and I hate how he refs our games.
     
  8. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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  9. cubuffs85

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    You beat me to it, I was going to rebutt MattRob's "soft fouls" line, but I think many of those fouls wouldn't have been called by a decent crew.

    In no way, do I think we lost the game because of the refs however, we didn't deserve to win.
     
  10. Buffalo Brad

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    Did Higgins go to NU or did he apply and just fail to get into CU? Buttscud Duschebag
     
  11. NBDefektor

    NBDefektor Well-Known Member

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    We really needed Spence to take over the game in the second half. If he wants to, he can drive and create contact and get to the foul line more often than not. To me, he was too passive and trying to create opportunities for other players. If at some point in the second half he decides that he's taking over the game, we have a much better chance of winning.

    Oh, and Ski needed to stay on his man since he can only shoot three pointers. Why is that so hard to rememeber, Ski?

    Other than that, we played pretty badly and still only lost by 5. To me, this was a wasted opportunity but one we will hopefully grow from come January.
     
  12. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    To be fair ski either goes off his man and that guy is open for a shot or he stays on his man and the other team gets a layup. The problem is that someone is getting beat and ski has to help.
     
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    Da Lama Well-Known Member

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    Is he the one with the blond hair/frosted tips?
     
  14. bombay

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    Really like the way Fletcher and Hopkins both just explode off the floor for rebounds. Great athetes.l
     
  15. mattrob

    mattrob Club Member Club Member

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    Maybe, maybe not, but you can't continue to take those lazy swipes at the ball throughout the game. Either foul them hard and send them to the line or let them go.
     
  16. DBT

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    Our freshmen need to grow up, PRONTO!
     
  17. Shldr2Shldr

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    As much as we all wanted the win, and as close as we were to pulling it off, I think it was a good loss for our freshman. The had lost to Baylor, then won 10 in a row including that big win over KU. Gets them a little more focused on what coach is talking about in practice. I think it will get the freshman a little more dialed in before conference play begins.
     
  18. cubuffs85

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    I don't ever want to lose but I think this could be a great learning experience. I'm very happy with the OOC schedule we've played -- sure we had cupcake, but glad we had the neutral site games against Baylor and Okie Lite, the home game against KU, and CSU's annual Super Bowl.
     
  19. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Las Vegas is a neutral site wit a bonus. Maybe the freshmen wont be starstruck during the p12 tourney.
     
  20. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Bingo. Tad doesn't get enough love for that decision. Plus I'm glad we had a neutral game in Dallas. Even though it's a different arena, at least the team will feel somewhat comfortable when we go there for the Final Four. :thumbsup:
     
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  21. cubuffs85

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    Obviously this game we just is more of a mock-up of the Pac-12 Tourney. But the Dallas game was great because that's exactly what a first round (technically second) is going to be like with a sterile environment in an NBA arena.
     
  22. Zachsquatch

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    Our young guys have so much potential and are improving, but I think they are running into some rhythm issues due to a 9-10 man rotation. As conference play starts I'd be curious to see how some more concentrated minutes would benefit guys like Fletch and DT. I love George King but giving him just 6 minutes a game may not be the best thing for the team right now (despite him attacking the boards).

    Our FT numbers among the Freshman (Wes included) could also use some improvement, putting it lightly: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/38/colorado-buffaloes
     
  23. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Our frosh, for the first time in a while, gave us absolutely nothing in the OSU game. We can't win when they do that.
     
  24. SECOBuffsFan

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    I though Fletcher asserted himself well....the problem Saturday was we got next to nothing from XJ and Wes...we can't win against big time opponents if those 2 no show games
     
  25. tante

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    All the freshman are really struggling right now. Hopefully they can all come out of their slump during conference play.
     
  26. Goose

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    I'm with SECO. I thought Fletch looked pretty good. Had some definite flashes.
     
  27. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    7 points on 8 shots is rough, especially those two bad misses at the end of the game. He definitely played best out of all the freshman.
     
  28. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    pretty sure those 7 were our only bench points. Fletch looked better in comparison, but like other have said, he wasn't efficient. Sad to see Jhop regress...
     
  29. SECOBuffsFan

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    JHop was horrendous on help rotations (2 really bad fouls reaching late and being flatfooted) and just seemed lost on offense...I was very disappointed in that as well. DT seemed a little overwhelmed. Fletcher missed shots but didn't seem overwhelmed like the other two. King only got a minute so hard to really say anything about that other than him and Mills badly playing that pick and roll on Markel Brown at the end of the 1st half that led to a 3-point play on JHop's foul.
     
  30. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    pretty much

    Talton: 2 points
    Fletch: 7 points
    Hopkins: 2 points


    King is so funny:

    Kansas played two minutes took 2 shots
    OSU played one minute took 1 shot
     

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