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Ringo's midseason report: Psyche of the players

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by CenturyBuff, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. CenturyBuff

    CenturyBuff Member

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    http://www.buffzone.com/ci_19083234

    Didn't see this posted anywhere, not sure if anyone has commented on it.

    But, really, you gotta be ****ing kidding me. Punishing players for being too emotional about wins and losses? I understand wanting to keep emotions under control, but come on, emotion is part of the game and process. It certainly helps to explain some of the "go thru the motions" play of some of the upper classmen on the field at times. Thanks, Hawk, instilling that attitude in kids for 5 years has gotten us where we are. This is why I believe Embree has so much work to do on changing attitude and culture, it's gonna take time-- 2, 3, 4 years.
     
  2. Creebuzz

    Creebuzz Club Member Club Member

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    I always thought the "avoid the peaks and valleys" babble from HaLk was a bit of urban legend. My god, he actually is as bad as this board portrays him. Wow.
     
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  3. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    ridiculous. punishment? it's football, not golf. and i like golf a lot.
     
  4. aik

    aik Club Member Club Member

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    Could this be an integral part of the Marquez Herrod swan song? This is why the coaching change should have come a year earlier.
     
  5. CenturyBuff

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    This. Keeping El Dickhead for 2010 only set this program back badly for another year-- a year which we didn't have already
     
  6. buffalo30

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    Herrod's situation sure fits, doesn't it? When you have a coach who paints over the wall that lists big wins in the history of the program, you have a very big problem. That sent a message to the players that big wins are not important. They were taught not to show emotion for 5 years. Not one of these sophomores, juniors or seniors has heard about winning is important. Not one of them was encouraged to play with emotion. It appears that only one player who graduated last year was encouraged to be a leader over the past 5 years, and yet what we saw was leapfrog on the sideline. I'm not going to call out individual players, but they need something and they need it bad. Augie Tammariello was only chest high to some of our linemen, but he got under their chin and absolutely lit a fire. I'm sure Embree and staff are working on it. It might take a couple of classes to graduate for the message to sink in and take hold. Some people won't ever understand how bad Hawkins became. I guess more of them do now.
     
  7. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    Wow, just wow. How was he ever successful?
     
  8. CenturyBuff

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    Well, in Boise, it was him getting the credit for what was, obviously, Chris Petersen & other assistants coaching ability. Peterson's had the last laugh for 5+ years now.
     
  9. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    No emotions? No wonder Missouri had so much fun ****ing our team.
     
  10. PurpleReign

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    Wow, that bold part sounds eerily similar to Tyrone Willingham.... *gags*
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I would have gone down on a lawman if it would have let us trade HaLkins for Willingham.
     
  12. BlackNGold

    BlackNGold Club Member Club Member

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    Hawkins is by far the worst coach in CU history...he has Fairbanks beat by the country mile for that honor.
     
  13. DBT

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    Man. This thread makes me want to cry.
     
  14. The Guest

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    This post is like a window to your soul (or lack thereof).
     
  15. wsp4820

    wsp4820 Sally Club Member Junta Member

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    Missed my chance.
     
  16. SINKRATZ

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    Stay out of the valley DBT, or the junta will suspend your ass.
     
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  17. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    I dunno, BnB, the fukbuks era was really, really bad. CF was a failure, and didn't care one iota about the program, the players, the fans, the school. He took his paychecks and walked away grinning.

    This is a race between a blazing incompetent and power-trip con artist. There is no winner.


    On correlation however,

    the fukbuks fiasco lead to the McCarthy era.....

    the taLkins whiff will lead to .........
     
  18. BuffUp

    BuffUp W.T.T.F. Club Member

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    he never dealt with losing... he took over from kutter (how ever you spell his name) - and BSU was already posting 10 and 11 win seasons.
     
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    Dirk Koetter
     
  20. Fight CU

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    so, you're a lawman?
     
  21. Mick Ronson

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    interesting thing about Koetter was he took and then turned down the OK State job. then, OSU went and hired Les Miles.
     
  22. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    What the ****? We'll have a new round of blacklisting?
     
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    You'll be first, Mr. Commie-Panties...I have a list.
     
  24. sackman

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    I go back and forth between which coach was worse - Fairbanks or Hawkins. The Hawkins fiasco is so fresh in my memory that it's hard not to say he was the worst. But I do remember the powder blue uniforms and losing to Drake, too. That sucked. We were pathetic. Literally on the verge of dismantling the football program completely. Fairbanks nearly bankrupted the entire athletic department all on his own, and he really didn't give a **** what happened to it after he left. Somewhere, deep down inside, I believe Hawkins cares. He's just an incompetent imbecile. Fairbanks was destructive.
     
  25. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Would you rather have someone destroy your program through apathy or through systematic implementation of an awful culture?
     
  26. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    I was a student during the dark Fairbanks era (and Mallory). I really think the program was at historical depths under CF, nobody gave a damn - I think we averaged about 35K/game if we were lucky. He simply did not care, his primary focus was on his new pair of shoes every week. Bad times indeed.
     
  27. sackman

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    The problem with Fairbanks wasn't limited to the football program, though. He nearly destroyed the entire athletic department. Seriously. It was more than apathy on his part, or so it seemed. It was apathy mixed in with large doses of entitled arrogance.
     
  28. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I was just focusing on how he was different from HaLkins.
     
  29. Wyo Buff

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    Better hold off, DBT. . . it could affect your playing time. Screw this man. Football is a game of passion. This totally substantiates my suspicions regarding the older guys on this team. They should be the ones kicking ass in practice every week. Instead they have been brainwashed into emotionless automatons. WE HAVE A FRIGGIN' TEAM OF EUNUCHS!!! Someone needs to start the face-punching! That said, I am confident that EB has already lit this fire.
     
  30. DesertDawg526

    DesertDawg526 Resident Dawg Club Member

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    :lol:

    My wife and I always disagree when this comes up. What I do know is that both of these guys are total frauds.

    UW fans would have taken Hawkins over Ty. In a hearbeat. CU fans would probably have taken Ty over Hawkins...

    It turns out both coaches disciplined players for being emotional? Wow just wow. I know if you got jacked up after a great play for Willingham, you were benched. If you wanted to go to the gym more than 2 days per week (and risk injury for over-lifting), you wouldn't be playing on the field. If you dared show emotion at any time during a game or practice? You wouldn't be playing... if you wanted to talk to the coach about something, just make sure it doesn't interfere with his Tee time.

    Ascending the coaching ranks:
    1. Step one, don't bother recruiting against the big boys. Go find some unpolished gems that were maybe offered by FCS teams.
    2. Teach comportment. No emotion allowed, no real strength and conditioning allowed, just worship the coach in all facets of life.
    3. Tune out the media and fans. They should not be privvy to practices, your thoughts regarding game performance, your thoughts about the direction of the program.
    4. Long-standing season ticket holders are meaningless. They're either so old they don't stand up and cheer, or they're young enough that they still do. Not sure which is worse.
    5. Eliminate hope, it's how you gain true power..
    6. There is no such thing as a real victory. Only moral victories count... We don't need others to feel good about us if we feel good about ourselves.
     

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