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RMS attendance problem.

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by sackman, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    A thought occurred to me today regarding the horrible and declining attendance at the RMS. CSU wanted this game in Denver so that it could get in front of it's Denver alumni. The problem is that CSU does a piss poor job of connecting with it's alumni at all. Having a game down there isn't going to magically make the Denver alumni jump up and say "sign me up". They're also saying "why should I spend $55 to go see CSU get it's ass kicked?" - a fair question. Especially when these folks don't have any passion for CSU football to begin with.
    As for the dwindling number of CU fans - a similar question of: "why should I put up with the hassle of Denver to watch CU kick the piss out of a team I don't give a damn about?" - another fair question.

    This situation isn't going to get better. It's going to get worse. As has been pointed out, it's not like the stadium personnel at Mile High are going to get any better to deal with. It's a pain in the ass to go to the game and once we get there, we're harrassed. Who wants to put up with that?

    This game is, for all intents and purposes, dead.
     
  2. BlackNGold

    BlackNGold Club Member Club Member

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    To add to what you said.
    • 11:30 AM kickoff time to minimize pregame activities. If you just want to watch the game you can do that on TV. The total game experience is lacking. And the organizers are surprised.
    • Give your fan base really crummy seats and extort money out of them for better seats. A really good way to improve fan relationships.
    • Make it really difficult to get through security and into the stadium (although with dwindling crowds this is no longer an issue.)
    • Have the parking attendants give as many people as possible a hard time about where they park.
    • Have the game in one of the most uninspiring stadiums in the country.

    I could pile on but I am in a good mood.
     
  3. CSU Husker

    CSU Husker Well-Known Member

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    And they should put the CU fans on the East side, so attendance doesnt look like **** on television.
     
  4. azbuff

    azbuff Club Member Club Member

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    Or they can just move the game back to campus. I have a very hard time believing CU makes more money playing this game at Invesco every year rather than playing it at Folsom two out of three years with the third game at CSU or Invesco.
     
  5. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Truthfully, this game could do well if they played it at night to open the season. More so if they did that and put it on campus.

    But I don't want it to do well. I don't want to save this thing. Next year, we'll be the away team. I'm thinking that I might skip the game and send a donation to the Football Excellence Fund in the amount that tickets and parking would have cost me. That might be the only way I can feel like I'm not hurting the program while also doing my part to help this thing die.
     
  6. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    But that's the issue. We will still have to pay for the "away" game.
     
  7. JimmyBuff

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    A contract through 2019 for Denver disagrees with you.


    Obviously with 20,000 empty seats, ticket prices were way too high.
     
  8. FChairbanks

    FChairbanks muthaka slayer Club Member

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    i agree the ticket prices were too high. i agree with b&g on every one of his points. if this game is going to be played in denver there needs to be incentives to make people want to actually come to the game without feeling like they are being ****ed in the ass by both universities and the colorado state legislature...
     
  9. tante

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    my experience was also bad (except the tailgating). Paid for the club level upgrade and they put about two sections of CU fans in the CSU club level section, which if you know the stadium happens to be the best club level by far and make the west side club level look like the old club level for b-ball games. I will absolutely not pay for a club level upgrade next year and if I really need to sit there, will just buy tickets off CL for more than half off. I would rather spend my extra dollars at folsom.
     
  10. Nor Cal Buff

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    I don't want to see the series completely die but it needs to change. It should be at Folsom when we are the home team and wherever the hell CSU wants it when they are the home team. Also, ticket prices are absurd for an 11:30 AM kickoff. I had plenty of friends who went and tailgated and then just went to a bar to watch the game because of the prices (these are recent CU grads). Move the game to 5 PM, offer cheaper tickets and stop the harassment of law abiding fans and it should be a great way to open the season with an annual win over an in-state rival.
     
  11. aik

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    This is a horrible college game setting. It's the one "home" game (being in Colorado) that I'd much rather watch on TV than in person. Does not work well in a 50% capacity NFL stadium. Only keep it around it CU can be guaranteed 6 games at Folsom a year. CSU's not bad to put on the nonconference schedule as it's one of the two lower tier FBS schools we should be scheduling to pair with our big yearly Ohio State-type. Would be ideal to get them or another front range like Wyoming or Air Force every year because it's easy for our travel purposes and CU will sell their allotment. I can see the Rams' huge protest though because we'd dwarf their numbers in Hughes. If Bohn extends this past 2019 fire him on the spot.
     
  12. jpbuff

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    Agreed this game in Denver is just bad. Have had season tickets for the past 7 years. Decided this year to upgrade to club level seats and where do I end up. In the 2 CU sections on the east side that are spack dab in the middle of the CSU fans. I know there weren't a lot of them. But talk about not feeling a part of the home field crowd.

    Also can anyone shed some light on this for me. Is it common to have the police dispurse the crowd thirty minutes after the game. For some reason I have a hard time believing the fans of Auburn/Alabama, Texas/Oklahoma, Tennessee/Florida or other big time games are asked to leave a half hour after their teams finish.

    This is why college football will never be big here. Short time to tailgate before the game, harrassed to leave right after the game is over.

    I went to the CU/Texas A&M game a few years ago. Awesome atmosphere, party in the parking lot after the game.

    I probably have attended my last game in Denver.
     
  13. torpontherun

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    I have been trolling this site for a while now,

    but hadn't created an account until now because I was afraid at how much time I may end up wasting on here. I want to weigh in on this because, like everyone else, I think having this game in Denver really sucks. I went to the 98 game here, when I was still in high school, and I can remember at that time thinking that it was cool the Buffs were going to get to play in Mile High. We had crappy end zone seats, but at least at the old Mile High, the atmosphere was so much different. At any rate, it never crossed my mind that having the game in Denver had any bearing on the status of CSU's program whatsoever. I was barely cognizant that CSU even had a football team and to me the whole thing was just something that happened because the Buffs were big-time.

    For various reasons, I didn't go to any of the games in Denver from 99-01, but I ended up going in 02 and 03, this time as a CU Student. I have got to say, I have never had less fun at any game than I had at the 02 game. I know most of it has to do with us losing, the way we lost, and the expectations we had going in to that season. But the atmosphere was just terrible. The new stadium sucks, and even though those two years the game was well attended, I thought it sucked having to drive all the way to Denver just to have to deal with a bunch of CSU fans. In those years the game always seemed like a road game because the Denver media would always make the Rams such sentimental favorites, I felt like our University was totally disrespected and undermined and I have always hated CSU very passionately for that to this day. After the 03 game, when we beat them, I can remember walking down the ramp, enduring insults from CSU fans to the effect that our degrees were going to be worthless because of this mythical "scandal," and the Ram fans telling the celebratory CU students that we'd be lucky to win 5 games that year. Even though they were right, we did only win 5 games, that was small-time to me. I never had given any thought to what CSU would do after they played us, but now I could tell that neither did CSU fans--they were more interested in watching and rooting for us to lose than watching their own team.

    I went to the 04 and 05 games in Folsom, but when they brought the series back to Denver, I decided not to go. I haven't bought season tickets since then because given the state of the team under the last coaching staff, it was pretty easy to get tickets in Folsom on the cheap. Therefore I have never been confronted with making the choice to buy tickets to this game in Denver. But this year, I happened to be listening to the radio and I won a pair of absolutely awful tickets from a station. I called the CU ticket office to ask if I could exchange them for better seats and pay the difference, and they said, no, they couldn't do that. I suppose there are good reasons that they can't do it, but to me it seemed a little offensive that I called and offered to give them money for something that I had already basically gotten for free, yet they acted as if I was wasting their time. Yet, I look out in the stadium Saturday and see all those empty seats. I was at the Cal game and it was the best atmosphere for a game I have seen since 2004. The way Embo energized the crowd and the way the CU fans showed out to support the Buffs made me feel proud to be a CU fan for the first time in years, even though the team got beat. We could have built on that momentum if this game had been in our home stadium, but instead we got stuck in this crappy venue with the ridiculous DPD and security staffs basically giving fans of both teams every reason in the world to prefer watching the game anywhere else but at the stadium. The CSU fans are even more small-time than I remember them being and frankly, kind of an embarassment, not just to their school, but even to us, since it is our home game and only on tv because of us.

    Even listening to Fairchild's comments before and after the game, he kept saying how CSU is "extremely fortunate" to even get to play in that game, practically begging the fans to show up and support their team, knowing in the back of his mind that the series won't last much longer if things continue as they are, and yet no one shows up and instead are calling for him to be fired so that they can hire a more expensive coach. Have they lost their minds? I feel sorry for Fairchild because in my opinion he called a pretty good game Saturday and it was pretty obvious that the Rams have absolutely no talent. He did a pretty good job even keeping the game close. It is pretty evident that the success CSU had in the late 90s and early 2000s was during a period when college football had more parity. Now, with the re-alignment stuff and the way television money is being distributed, as you guys have already alluded to, it is pretty evident that that period of success for CSU is over, probably never to return. At this point, I think, like everyone else, that CSU should be happy to come to Folsom and get whipped every year, or give up playing the game. Listening to some of their people talk, it seems like they have themselves almost become resigned to this realization, yet we have this ridiculous contract to play in Denver where it is not working out for either AD. Don't know what the solution is to that, but even if I get free tickets to next season's game, it would take some convincing to get me to go. Why would I, when I can go watch the Buffs play in Folsom 6 other times?
     
  14. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    The wordiness is strong with you, MTN should just go home now he's been overwhelmed by the newbie.
     
  15. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Welcome, torpontherun. Looks like you got weeks of pent up posting out in one shot. :smile2:

    Get me a sammich and such.
     
  16. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    Didn't read thread besides the OP, but I would hardly say we beat the piss outta CSU.
     
  17. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    Can someone summarize this post? It looks impressive from a new poster but I am way too lazy to read it. Thanks.
     
  18. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    I think it's a good post
     
  19. tante

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    the guy went to the rms for the first time in 1998 - the csu fans and venue sucked
    he went again in 02 and 03 - the csu fans and venue sucked
    he stopped going and went this year - the csu fans suck even more a venue sucks more than tinis mom
     
  20. The Guest

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    Your instincts were good...you should have followed them. Welcome to Allbuffs; it's a slow death.
     
  21. Unleash Hell

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    Last 3 games in Denver margin of victory

    08: 21
    10: 21
    11: 14
     
  22. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I was talking about this year. CSU was up 7-0. It was a 7 point game until just a few minutes left in the game. Hardly a beating.
     
  23. The Guest

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    I hate that you wake up early for work these days. It's somehow wrong.
     
  24. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I wake up early so I can Allbuff a lil before going to work. :thumbsup:
     
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    The problem being that this time last year you'd Allbuff a lil at the same time...on your way to bed.
     
  26. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I know...at least this time this year I'm still drunk like I was last year.
     
  27. max4buffs

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    Anybody know what Bolan makes off this game? Might be why ticket prices are so high. Just one more person to share the $$$ with.
     
  28. sackman

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    I never felt, even down 7-0, that CU was going to lose that game. CU looked like the clearly better team on both sides of the ball. We kicked their ass.
     
  29. J.R. Ewing

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    Don't think of it as wasting time. To make room for Allbuffs, I've learned to multitask. This morning I showered while gargling mouthwash and peeing. My wife wasn't thilled, but I easily saved 5 minutes.
     
  30. The Guest

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    I sometimes time myself when I pee, if I think it's going to be a good one. I genuinely believe I've surpassed the two-minute mark at least twice in my life, and frankly I don't think it was even close (but failed to time either, dammit). Anyway, I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread or even your statement.

    Oh, I do have one question: Was your wife in the shower with you?
     

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