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Running Back / TE Coach Responsibilities

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by patebuff, Sep 27, 2014.

  1. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    Starting to think this is a major issue. Especially the last play call
     
  2. 14er

    14er “Imitation is suicide.” -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Something is not adding up here:

    COACHING EXPERIENCE
    2006 Boise State Offensive Graduate Assistant
    2007-08 Western Washington Run Game Coordinator / Offensive Line
    2009 Sacramento State Offensive Tackles/Tight Ends
    2010 Sacramento State Offensive Line
    2011-12 San Jose State Tight Ends
    2013 Colorado Running Backs & Tight Ends


    We need an upgrade at the RB coaching position. I personally think the running backs have regressed this year across the board.
     
  3. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    We need a dedicated RB coach. That last play could be attributed to that.
     
  4. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    In fairness, our guys are great are squaring up their shoulders right toward the sidelines.
     
  5. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    Running Backs coach is one of those spots where you can often use a young, energy guy who also tends to connect with recruits. Great example is a guy like EB when he was starting out.

    I don't think the RBs have regressed as much as they haven't gotten better and they haven't had a lot of room to run through.

    Pow is effective when he gets some blocking but he isn't ever going to be elusive or fast. He is healthy which is a step up from last year.

    ToJo has had some nice runs, he is more consistently producing solid runs than in prior years. Hasn't had the big, long runs but again I don't think that is as much him as opportunity.

    Linsay has shown some explosiveness. I just can't figure out why they insist on using a guy with speed and quickness but little bulk and power in short yardage and yet when they are going to run wider plays that need that speed and quickness he is on the bench. Don't know if this the RB coach decision or the OC but it is screwed up.

    Adkins actually looked better today than he has most of the season butstill doesn't look like he did last year. Don't know if he is knicked up ir just thinking to much but he is the one who you could say has regressed.

    Fact is though that none of those guys are backs that any other teams in the PAC spend time wishing they had. They are all average at best and below average in honest evaluation. We need to recruit a RB or better some RBs who can turn little bits into big gains, who can make DCs worry, we don't have those.

    If you have a back with the natural talent and instincts he doesn't need huge amounts of coaching.

    I'd like to see them use the RB coaching spot for a guy who makes you better in a number of ways, especially in recruiting while still being able to coach his position.
     
  6. ElCunado

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    Maybe get Walters in there. Those drops f'n killed us.
     
  7. 1989Buff

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    I agree. TOJO's problem isn't speed...he seems fast as hell on the straightaways or if he can get to the edge...but he doesn't seem to have any ability to juke or change direction well or make people miss. Adkins is a mystery. I thought he'd be a beast after seeing him last year. Maybe a sophomore slump. Pity Donta Abron wasn't able to stick around. He looked like he had some great long-term potential.
     
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    He had a great cutback and burst in the fourth. Something I have never seem from him. I think it may be a fluke since it was 1 play.

    What happened to Adkins. Holy slump
     
  9. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Klayton Adams is one of my favorite coaches.

    Can I assume this thread is not an indictment of him so much as it's a statement about wonky position responsibilities?
     
  10. krom

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    Would this have anything to due with the fact that the o-line can't run block for ****? I can't even count the number of times I saw guys flat out whiff on blocks or stand around looking for something to do while our RBs were getting mudholed.
     
  11. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    Yes. Sorry, should have stated that. Change if you can.
     
  12. aik

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    Adams was someone I was unsure of because of his limited background and he wasn't a no-brainer when speculating about which assistants were coming with Mac. Since then he has proved to be the younger coach who connects well with recruits especially in one of our major focus areas in NorCal. We absolutely need a dedicated RB coach and high energy recruiter.
     
  13. Bufffan68

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    Fire Neinas and get an RB coach?
     
  14. aik

    aik Club Member Club Member

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    I don't want to go too heavy on the fire anyone rhetoric just yet with it still being September and our biggest challenges remaining to be seen, but assuming our head coach and coordinators return next year I would like to see the staff composition look like this.

    OC/QB
    WR
    OL
    TE/OL2
    RB (/ST?)

    DC/LB
    DL
    DB1 (/ST?)
    DB2 (/ST?)

    There are plenty of other discussions on the board about which coaches should stay and which should go based on unit performance and also on who is perceived to be earning their paycheck in recruiting and who is not. Neinas was an outsider to the MacIntyre coaching tree and the cumulative record of teams he was on staff for in his close to 20 year coaching career was abysmal so it rasied red flags from the beginning. I do not expect Mac to make wholesale changes to this staff unless some of the older guys go to the NFL or retire, but having a dedicated special teams coach, a special teams coordinator in essence, who does not recruit lights out or produce special teams that flip the field and contribute to non-offensive points on the regular is a waste of a staff position and should be critically evaluated at season's end. I guarantee Mac has to present a case for some of the guys he wants to retain to Rick George after Thanksgiving weekend. Are we improving according to plan with the current group? Or can we do better? Mac's loyalties will really be tested when his guys aren't producing wins. I know Bill Parcells wouldn't have a problem replacing an assistant who wasn't producing quality results.
     
  15. Bufffan68

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    Great post! Thanks.
     
  16. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    I think Adams is a good coach. We need a dedicated RB coach and I think that was evident yesterday.
     
  17. MtnBuff

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    Like your thinking.

    One point that I would disagree with is the combined DC/LB. We are going to be very young at LB for the next couple years at least and based on what we have seen this year those guys need a full time position coach, can't be distracted by coordinator duties.

    The DB/ST combination is intriguing. Don't think we need two assistants dedicated to DBs, especially since M2 likes to spend some time with them as well.
     

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