Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Costa Rica Buff, Oct 12, 2010.
This type of story hurts McCartney's reputation and potential for returning to CU, imo.
Lots of schools and players called out in this one. What a scumbag this guy is.
I need to have a bar mitzvah.
You're too old. I can just see the NCAA changing the statute of limitation laws and coming after the schools he divulged.
Well, are you Mormon?
This does not reflect poorly on the program to me. This is about this scumbag agent. Of course a college kid will ask for money. It is up to the agent to show some ethics.
This thing is going to blow wide open. Between all the programs currently under major investigation by the NCAA and an agent now playing whistle blower on the industry, this is gonna be big.
Sucks that Kanavis got caught out, but it's a very small part of this story.
oh s h i t
Statute of Limitations is 4 years. No worries here.
Nice shot at Shanny in there too...
"Almost instantly we got some new clients, including troubled Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett (for whom we did some of our best work; a player no team should have touched got taken in the third round)"
My statute of limitations on things that upset me about my team doesn't expire, however.
This makes me feel like taking break from college football for a while.
It's not that I don't understand that a guy will take advantage of a situation for money. And I'm also realistic in understanding that big money opportunities attract movers and shakers who like to spread the good times around.
I just don't like to imagine it taints the sport that I love. Especially my team.
Seriously, I'm thinking I might start following another sport. At the end of the day, I probably can't abandon college football, but this sucks. I don't like it one bit, and I don't like that our school was implicated.
We all called USC a bunch of cheaters. They enjoyed a lot of success with Reggie Bush on the field. Some of that success was invalidated by our suspecions of his behavior.
What does this mean for our team, in our eyes? Does it change how we feel about our split MNC in 90? It makes me less warm toward it.
Great - anyone who simply browses this article is going to read about CU first. Dirty little business this college football is, and the sad part is it is probably dirtier than ever today.
Maybe, but it also alot easier to get caught now, with the twitters and facespace's.
This is nothing new, this **** has been going on for a long time. This new NCAA prez aint ****ing around though.
Would Sports Illustrated have the balls to open up a story about some infraction at Texas?
With so much money and so many high profile athletes, one automatically can assume that program is squeeky clean.
Kanavis chose to take the money. It has nothing to do with CU and it has everything to do with the NCAA and the perilous position it places athletes in with its ivory tower ideals. These kids come from far away places, many from fatherless homes, and they have to scratch together rent and money for the things their scholarships don't cover (books, meals, housing, transportation, etc.) They can't even accept jobs in a lot of cases. Yet we live a free market economy and are surprised when money is a motivating factor? Meantime the University squirrels away every nickel it gets from their labor save paying some monkey $2mil a year to run it. In exchange for their labor, said student athlete, gets a "free" education (if he finishes) and a chance at a one in a bazillion payday in the NFL draft. Or he's just left with some nice stories to tell friends around the holidays about their grid iron glory.
Both parties enter into the agreement knowing the vices of the trade.
I know guys personally that played at Texas, it's not squeeky clean. Anyhow, find me one high profile program that is and you have made history.
The worst part is that McGee took his money, then didn't sign with him...
Rules of fandom apply here. If another team is inept or caught cheating then we can laugh or express our superiority. If our team is inept or caught cheating then it isn't funny or whatever we did can be justified or rationalized.
The only way to stay a fan in the age of steroids and cheating and big money prima donnas is to be flexible. I'll own the hypocrisy. What else can we do?
This doesn't bother me. **** happens. I just wish we had players good enough to get paid.
Lmao, you said it.
I'm starting to come around to another view on how we pay student athletes.
I've always been a moral highground, "they're getting an education and a good look by NFL talent--what else do they need?" advocate.
But that's not realistic, is it?
The Navy puts lots of young men and women together in close quarters and tells them not to ****. Well, not ****ing is probably the right thing--and sexual relationships can, in some cases, jepoardize the mission. But guess what? Biology finds a way--it's our strongest instinct--and boys and girls are gonna ****. So we need to find options that allow for both biology and mission, in my opinion.
Same here. You've got guys who don't have a lot of money, making a lot of money for people who already have a lot of money. But those guys are valuable commodities in themselves, and their loyalty is worth a lot of money. Many of them are gonna find a way to get money. It's just the way it is.
So while I wish my team wasn't implicated, I've come around to believing there's a bettere way to treat these student athletes.
There is no such thing as a clean program. They are just like any business in America. Rules are created, and then teams/companies/players do what they need to do to find loopholes and get around them. Then new rules and regulations are created. It is all a matter of who gets caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and how deep that hand in in the jar. CU was not squeaky clean during the era of our greatest success. That shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. People stayed tight-lipped enough about it that only relatively minor infractions could be proven. If some of the people in the know had spoken out at the time, there could have been a lot more damage done to the program. Things a lot worse than a player or two taking money from an agent.
This happens at all major football and basketball schools, though. If you want to stay competitive, you jump through those loopholes along with everyone else. You take the good with the bad, accept that some unsavory things are happening behind the scenes, and move on with your life choosing whether or not you want to be a fan.
If you have a 100% scholarship you get money for rent, food, books etc. on top of paying for your tuition.
I believe a 50% scholarship pays only tuition but not completely sure.
I think athletes today are much more aware of the consequences of taking money and/or gifts than the guys back in the day were. The media scrutiny and internet have changed the scene.
Are we really shocked that a CU player might be caught in the web of payments and under the counter deals cut by broke players and predatory agents? I hate to hear it, but I have never been naive enough to believe that CU is immune to it. Sad yes, surprising, not so much.
Separate names with a comma.