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Short Shuttle vs 40 Time

Discussion in 'University of Colorado Recruiting Archive' started by Buffnik, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I often harp on the Short Shuttle* (5-10-5 drill) as more indicative than the 40 time for judging football athleticism.

    I thought folks might be interested in some context for that so that when they look at SPARQ times they'd have a good idea of whether someone is quicker than fast, or vice versa.

    On that note, I found NFL Combine data that gave the 5-year averages by position for the years 2008-2012.

    Here goes:

    PositionAvg 40Avg 5-10-5Difference
    QB4.874.340.53
    WR4.554.250.30
    RB4.594.280.31
    FB4.804.290.51
    TE4.774.370.40
    OC5.304.660.64
    OG5.364.850.51
    OT5.324.800.52
    DE4.884.460.42
    DT5.134.660.47
    ILB4.804.310.49
    OLB4.744.340.40
    CB4.554.170.38
    S4.624.240.38

    Basically, the spread between Short Shuttle and 40 is going to average 0.3-0.5 with "speed" positions being closer to 0.3 and other positions being closer to 0.5 (shuttle times are faster).

    To use an example from a recruit thread, WR Drew Kobayashi has the following SPARQ sheet:

    Kobayashi's spread is around a 0.5 (WR norm of 0.3), showing a guy with speed a bit below average but with exceptional agility for the position.

    For WR or any other position, I'd much rather see the ratios this way than for a guy to be running an above average 40 but showing below average agility in the Short Shuttle. Getting open is much more about getting out of breaks and changing direction quickly than it is about outrunning the DBs in a straight line down the field.

    I also thought it was interesting from the data table how much short area quickness is important to the OC position as compared to other OL spots. Stands to reason, of course, but I hadn't ever seen the data.

    *The name "20-yard shuttle" is derived from the total yards that athletes travel during the drill. They start in the middle of a 10 yard distance with one hand touching the ground. The athlete then pushes off their dominant leg in the opposite direction for 5 yards. After covering this distance, as quickly as possible they reverse and go 10 yards in the opposite direction. Finally, they reverse direction again, ending the drill at the starting point. The procedure is timed.
     
  2. TSchekler

    TSchekler Darth's Hero Club Member

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    Good stuff, thanks. Explosiveness (shuttle, vert) is definitely a key component in a football players ability. The shuttle is particularly telling because it shows the athlete's ability to change direction. I've been impressed by the straight line speed of some of the kids I've coached, but very few had the explosiveness to go with that speed, needed to start and stop on a dime or run in and out of their breaks like most D1 athletes can. Of course, I don't coach at Valor, Cherokee Trail, Grandview, Cherry Creek, etc., which would probably be why I don't see that very often :lol:
     
  3. WizzersGhost

    WizzersGhost Banned BANNED

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    So your recruiting is sub-par compared to Valor? Go hire McCaffery!
     
  4. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    Surprised the average 3 cone time for RBs and WRs isn't a bit higher. Would've guessed they would be similar to the CBs.

    Also worth saying, people should take note of the 40 times there. 4.4 speed isn't the norm.
     
  5. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    CB numbers are pretty impressive.
     
  6. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    Yep. 4.4 speed is very, very rare
     

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