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Should Hirschman have played the whole game?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffnik, Oct 29, 2011.

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The QB situation?

  1. Hirschman should have played the whole game

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    44.4%
  2. Don't throw Hansen under the bus (or risk ruining Hirsch)

    30 vote(s)
    55.6%
  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    On the one hand, I get that the coaches are sending the messages that if you aren't able to practice you don't start and that if you give us the best chance to win then you'll play.

    But on the other hand, we pretty much know what the result of the game's going to be with Hansen playing and we need to build for the future.

    What would you guys have preferred?
     
  2. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    He kinda sucked.
     
  3. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    Hirsch. We never stood a chance and Hansen had his fair share of bad interceptions. Don't think hirsch is the answer, but he should have rested given his concussion. Wood or dillon to start next year.
     
  4. OrangeBowl

    OrangeBowl Club Member Club Member

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    Maybe Shrock should get some reps?...I guess with 4 games to go burning a redshirt just to burn it is useless though...
     
  5. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    No, this is Tyler's team and his last hurrah. Let him go out at the helm he's been a good Buff.
     
  6. Buffellow85

    Buffellow85 Well-Known Member

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    You play Hirsh for the game experience.

    If Hansen gets his bell rung aginst the spoiled children on Friday, Hirshman would at least have some work in an actual game instead of practice conditiins
     
  7. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    I probably would have done it like they did. Start Hirsch, pull him when he isn't being effective, put him back in later in the game to finish it out and not get Hansen hurt anymore.

    Be interesting to see Schrock but don't want to kill the RS year. Might have been interesting to put in Dorman or Burnette, I get a feeling that both will never see meaningfull playing time in their careers.
     
  8. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Hirschman looked like Hodge did vs Wisconsin in the alamo bowl.
     
  9. bigbang2

    bigbang2 Typical, brain knowledge or the ability to have a

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    The play calling was not great for a young QB making his first start. Normally most Offensive co-ordinator try and ease young QB into the game. I liked the last throw to Deehan in the 4th quarter. The guy can only get better.
     
  10. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Would have liked to have seen Hirschman throughout to get him experience. Not like QB play could have been much worse than it was.

    Hansen is atrocious right now and mediocre when he's "on his game". As a side note, his act of yelling at everyone else after his bad plays is getting old.
     
  11. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Especially after he threw it into the middle of four guys, then blamed Thorton.
     
  12. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    you either start and play Hansen the whole game if he is healthy or you start Hirsch and play him the whole game. Don't bench Hansen for the 1st series.
     
  13. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Club Member Club Member

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    To be fair, Hirsch looked horrible in the 1st quarter. He was EXTREMELY LATE on EVERY FREAKIN THROW! I'm ok with letting him learn on the field, but he was not good.
     
  14. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Embree said he wanted to see how Hirshman did and he put Hansen in to try to get something going, which didn't work but at least this staff makes adjustments, for better or worse.
     
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  15. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Well, the last staff had a habit of playing two QBs too.

    In the end, I am not sure it really matters. Neither Hansen nor Hirschman are special.
     
  16. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Yeah but the last staff didn't make adjustments like this staff does.
     
  17. MtnBuff

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    So what would have happened is Embree had a son who is a QB?
     
  18. zbuff

    zbuff Club Member Club Member

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    This, plus for the most part our WRs don't get separation, so it's throw into coverage or eat it.
     
  19. lvbuff

    lvbuff Well-Known Member

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    Its sad but true...Hanson is nothing more than a journeyman QB...He might have done well behind a great O-line. I suspect Luck would have trouble behind the Buffs O-line. Supposedly Hanson was a a hair better than lil Hawkins which isn't saying much. Back to the question...They should have stuck with Hirschman...The outcome couldn't have been much different. The offense hasn't lit up the scoreboard with Hanson. I say start Hirsch the rest of the way.
     
  20. Buffalo Brad

    Buffalo Brad Club Member Club Member

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    Hirsch was horrible. He locked onto his reciever and telegraphed every throw and then threw it late. I like that the staff was being careful with Hansen, but they needed to make some sort of change and if Hansen was cleared to play, then he had to come in.
     
  21. buffsyko

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    I was hoping that Hirschman would take over today. Not the case, he looked like a freshamn. No big deal, he should get better with reps and age.
     
  22. MtnBuff

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    You are right about Hirsch, he looked like the moment overwhelmed him. He did look much better at the end of the game when the pressure was off and he could just play. It also helped that he was playing against walk-ons and 3rd stringers and all ASU wanted to do was run the clock out but if he is going to develop as a QB this time will help him.

    Based on what I have seen I don't see him as anything better than a quality backup but it will still help him and the team for him to have game experience going into next year.
     
  23. BuffUp

    BuffUp W.T.T.F. Club Member

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    neither one is looking good - play em all.... what do we have to lose? qb by committee and run the wildcat.... wtf? i know we want to be smash mouth, but we can't smash **** now... play the offense that works with the ?talent? we have now... if we have to run option or spread or zone read or the veer - do it!! the coaches are not giving the player a fair chance. look what snyder does?? look what they do at nu... play the scheme that fits your ability!!
     
  24. BuffUp

    BuffUp W.T.T.F. Club Member

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    another thing - at this level best kid plays... who cares if he has been a "good buff" we are paying for his schooling...
     
  25. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    To me, Hansen is clearly the better of the two. Add in that he couldn't take reps this week, I thought his performance was not unexpected.
     
  26. bigbang2

    bigbang2 Typical, brain knowledge or the ability to have a

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    Hansen has been in the program for 5 years and he has taken the bulk of the snaps, offcourse he is going to look better than most QB on the roster. Even to a blind man, Hirschman is more talented. You folks will see the difference in talent when the likes of Shane Dillon, Nick Hirschman and Connor Wood get a chance to get on the field.
     
  27. SINKRATZ

    SINKRATZ Club Member Club Member

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    Isn't Tyler part of the senior class that everyone is pretty sure stinks, and has a loser mentality? Isn't that the class we all can't wait to see graduate? Isn't he part of the culture Embree is trying to purge from the program? Wasn't he 1/2 of the dynamic duo playing leapfrog on the sidelines of a game we lost and has become one of the lasting images of the Hawk era?

    Serious question for those who think Tyler deserves to play out the remaining games this season - why do you want him to play?

    1. He's an exception to the "loser mentality" of this senior class.
    2. Despite all the negative, he's still our best option so we're stuck with him.
    3. Hirschmann stinks and even the extra reps this season won't help him beat out Wood or Dillon so why bother.
    4. We should throw him a bone for sticking it out and not complaining while he got jerked around by the previous HC
    5. Other??
     
  28. azbuff

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    Hirschman was absolutely putrid. Didn't give Embo much of a choice, IMO.
     
  29. DBT

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    What kind of choices are those, :lol:? Answering both would be appropriate.
     

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