Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffnik, May 11, 2012.
Most likely a bowl game. If we were 5-7, competitive in all of our games, but absolutely beat the **** out of USC on national television, that might work. Otherwise, I think a better record and the extra practice time is more important long term. Losing a ****** bowl game would definitely change the calculation somewhat.
I want both.
But if forced to chose for Burrito year 2, gimme the bowl game.
You don't get TV revenue staying home.
The fans haven't been rewarded with the occation to travel to some warmer climate for a long time. Let's reward the fans with an extra game (or two!)
Bowl trip provides recruiting opportunities, hopefully in CA or TX or AZ.
Fan alligmment with Embree's stated goal. Why defy the coach?
Extra practice time and team bonding
The signature wins will come in time.
I don't see a game on the schedule that we have a prayer of producing a signature win. The closest we may come is UCLA or Washington, and I really don't think that either of those games would qualify as a "signature" win.
Get to a bowl game. Win it. Recruit like a freak. Kick ass in 2013.
Bowl game. Not even close.
Bowl game, period. We need it.
First inclination was to go with the bowl game, but I ended up going with the signature win. Make no mistake, it would be great to get back to a bowl, but if we can go into LA and beat USC, or into Eugene and beat the Ducks as part of a five win season, that would really make the kind of statement we need to propel us into 2013. There are legitimate question marks surrounding a lot of the teams that we play with their new coaches and offensive/defensive philosophies. So six wins against the Arizona States and Washington States of the world could be met with the inevitable, "Yeah, but...." However, there is no question that the Trojans and Ducks should be top 10 teams and beating them would be significant.
Bowl game. The reps we could give to younger players during the bowl practices would be a very nice springboard into 2013.
Would also really springboard recruiting.
bowl game every time...
...unless we totally blow out the fuskers, the domers, the whorns, the dux, or the condoms on national tv on a weekend when that game is a nationally televised prime-time feature game on espn...
...so i guess those would be my exceptions.
So would a signature win. Stanford's upset of USC was what made people take notice that things were turning around in Palo Alto. Stanford did not make a bowl game that year but they did very well on the recruiting trail. Also, our 2008 recruiting class was impacted much more positively by the win against Oklahoma than by going 6-6 for the year.
Bowl game except for something weird, like Skiddy suggested. I like the idea of us winning four games, losing 7 by 1 point, and beating USC by 97 points for their only loss of the season. I would take that.
Bowl game means much more on the recruiting trail. Signature win has impact for a week or two, bowl can be used the entire off-season and into the next year.
Bowl also means you hit at least .500, 5-7 means you still had a "losing" record.
Look at all those years that the corn got fat on weak OOC opponents and then beat KU, KSU, ISU and went to a bowl game. Even when they got killed in the bowls people nationally thought they were special because they went each year.
Hawk had a few signature wins (OU, WVU) but ultimately being a losing program took us down.
A bowl game or signature win have pretty much the same effect on the recruiting trail IMO. Stanford beating USC meant a whole lot. No freaking way its impact only mattered for a week or two. That game got blue chips coast to coast to notice Stanford and certainly got the attention of west coast kids.
As far as people thinking NU was special for making so many straight bowl games, that will happen when you make bowls and are winning at least nine games a year doing so (40 straight years or so).
Of course Hawkins was ultimately taken down by losing... in years 3-5. That has nothing to do with a thread about Embree's 2nd season.
We need one or the other to turn heads. I prefer a bowl game, but if you think us beating USC, Oregon, or Stanford would barely register on a national scale, you are smoking crack.
If that sig win is at USC or Oregon, then sig win, otherwise bowl game.
No question a bowl game is more important. The 15 extra practices make it a no brainer, and right now the more practices the better for CU.
Side Note: It's a complete sham that teams that miss bowls are not allowed the extra practices... total BS policy designed to keep the bad teams down (and the ones that don't load up on patsies)
That really is a bad policy. In basketball they allow extra practices into the post-season for the teams that don't make the tourney. Not every program takes advantage of it, though.
But we need at least an upset if not signature win to get there.
Doesn't matter either way. Unless the season ends with a Rose Bowl Win/Mythical (Voted) National Title the season is a failure.
Oh look the ****** troll is back.
Also I find the mythical comment funny seeing as how UW claims the 1960 national title after finishing #5/6 in the polls and only one publication voted them champs (Helms Athletic Foundation :rofl:). That's some Alabama territory right there.
I have high definition of a signature win but beating Oregon or USC in a beat down fashion would be better than a bowl game.
I want our signature win to be against LSU.
What is a "signature" win? I bet if you asked 10 different people you would get 10 different answers.
Bowl game is more tangible.
This. I might add Stanford to the list.
The only games that would count as signiture wins are Oregon, USC, and Stanford. Oregon and SC are away games against top 5 teams. Sorry. Stanford is a home game, so there is a chance. Anything can happen at Folsom, as history has shown. Circle this game if you are a signiture win guy.
Agreed, bowl game because of the extra practices.
So, the poll question should be: would you rather beat stanford or go to a bowl game?
Hmm. I could see a bowl without a signature win. But I cannot, for the life of me, see a signature win without a bowl game.
This was my exact same thought
5-7 with a signature loss. Go Sac State!!!! Montana state part 2!
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