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Silver linings

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by manhattanbuf, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. manhattanbuf

    manhattanbuf Well-Known Member

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    Today was a devastating day for many of us, myself included. I am stoked that I did not attend the game. In watching the tape of the game, I did see some good things about what we can do. Hopefully we can build on these things going forward:

    1) When we run the offense out of an "I" formation, we seem to have a different attitude. Single back sets with Webb don't seem to be working all too well, unless we have him rolling out. He does have a good release point; but, with his lack of height, we need to do a better job in getting him deep drops from play action or boots. Single and empty sets are making it tough for us to get the right blocking setup.

    2) Gerald Thomas and Christian Powell need MUCH more involvement. Thomas has real speed. He jumps out at you on film with how "sudden" he moves. Powell, while young, is as advertised. He handles his business with authority. I like the way he does his thing, whether it be running or blocking.

    Our talent is rising; team speed and overall athleticism are definitely getting better. We need to learn to play with more discipline. Our ball handling in the kicking game as well as from Webb are major concerns. I agree that the offensive line could have played much better. However, with the lack of superior possession with the ball, O-Line play will be largely irrelevant.

    I was a huge Embree supporter. Like many of you, the quick of the candle has gotten much shorter because we should never lose to the Lamb Chops. I expect that we crush Sac State. We'll have our mettle tested on the road against Fresno and Wazzu. We NEED to be 3-1 because we will be over-matched in nearly every conference game. I suspect that we'll beat Sac State and Fresno State, but lose to Wazzu. My belief is that progress is defined by at least 1-2 more wins each successive season. I know many of you have not wanted to hear that, but given the state of our program, expecting a terrible team to suddenly go from three wins to six is tough to fathom.

    It's going to be another long year.
     
  2. TimmyDUBs

    TimmyDUBs Dirty haole Club Member

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    disagree.
    1) I don't think youre right
    2) the whole team needs serious help
     
  3. Jaximus

    Jaximus Club Member Club Member

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    Yeah our talent is great. Now we just need guys who can block and catch. Oh and tackle. Then we're money!
     
  4. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    I saw more talent on D. A lot less talent on O, especially at RB and WR. Why Donta got no carries is a mystery to me. All the carries went to Jones (hurt, apparently) and Creer (who looked a step slow). Ugh.
     
  5. BuffLuKe

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    Webb was hurt too, he was limping. Thats what happens when u get your ass kicked up front. I agree on Abron, let the dude spin if u arent gonna rs him. Only running play I saw work all day was that zone stretch, the cut back was there. We didnt run it much tho.
     
  6. SJBuff

    SJBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I thought Creer was our best back because he at least ran with authority but you are correct that he doesn't seem to have breakaway speed.
    Derrick Webb was impressive.
    We made all our field goals.

    Cant think of any other positives.
     
  7. BuffaloChuck

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    I keep thinking of the other seasons we've lost to CSU and how spectacular some of those were. The Hawkins Years, for example.
     
  8. buffwings

    buffwings Club Member Club Member

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    I did some young talent there. But they ran around with no direction and pissed themselves. That's on the coaches. I saw terrible playcalling and questionable decisions at critical times. They might be able to get some talent at CU but they need to be turned into a cohesive group and quite frankly these coaches are not getting it done. I dont expect much more than 4-5 wins per season from these guys. The sooner we cut our losses the better.

    Not every 1-10 coach turns into Coach Mac, in fact most do not, as it has been said here before.
     
  9. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    Silver linings in a loss to CSU? Really?

    I guess Spruce could be one. :huh:
     
  10. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    My silver lining is that I now have no expectations for the rest of the season. When I don't expect to win, I'm not disappointed when we lose.
     
  11. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    Well written. Lowered expectations.
     
  12. BuffSurveyor

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    I just have to chime in here with a couple of thoughts:

    There is no silver lining taking one in the rear from CSU. No matter how good they might be.

    Don't know what is going on in Boulder, but I see little good from yesterdays loss.

    We shall see what this team and coaching staff are made of in the next few weeks. I'm starting to wonder if "huskermark" was correct with his concern that Embree would be the wrong hire for the Buffs. Not saying I agree with him (yet anyway), but time will tell if he was seeing something that many did not see.

    You've been through hell! Buff fans don't deserve another season (or two) for the dark ages.
     
  13. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    This quote should confirm how screwed we are

    "I don't know what it is, and that is a bothersome issue," Embree said. "You have to be able to run the ball. So we need to look at what we are doing and get it figured out."
     
  14. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    This season is gonna be hell. and until our OL does something positive (and we get an actual WR back) it's gonna be real ****** next year too.
     
  15. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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    We looked like a team that had a ton of freshman and inexperienced players out there. We also looked like we didn't have any team leaders; Polk going down didn't help. Add that to a coaching staff learning on the fly, and an unsupportive administration, and we have a big problem. I do think we'll be much improved as a team as the season goes on, we'll probably become a team to be proud of towards the end of the year when nothing is on the line.

    Starting to think we're just hexed; there are programs everywhere with less talent, less tradition, less support, and worse coaching that are able to string together more success than we've been able to sice 2005.
     
  16. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    because EB fixates on only one back and forgets about the rest
     
  17. BuffHerd

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    Silver lining. Let's see... Well at least CU fans showed to the game, there were only 20,000 lamb fans singing that stupid ****ing "proud to be a csu lamb" chant as the game ended, and as we exited the stadium, and on the long walk of shame to the car, and in slow moving traffic.
     
  18. Buffalo Brad

    Buffalo Brad Club Member Club Member

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    Youmwere so right in our conversation at the tailgate yesterday. You said it was feeling like 09. And you were right. I thought at 14 to 3, I was going to be the one who was right. But, alas, it was not to be. **** I hate being wrong.
     
  19. NBDefektor

    NBDefektor Well-Known Member

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    My silver lining was that our waitress at the bar had incredibly big tits. that's all.
     
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    letsgoavs192 Well-Known Member

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    Fresno State is better than CSU, it's a road game, and now we have injuries. How do you figure we win that game?
     
  21. bombay

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    Powell and Thomas both looked good, as mentioned above. Crowley looked pretty good but shouldn't be returning kicks or punts.
     
  22. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Most absurd, asinine rationalizing comes from the rivals board, where a poster said: "Well, in 2001 we lost our first game to Fresno, so let's see how this plays out" :rofl::lol::wow::rofl:
     
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    Idk, the last scoop from buffscoop is pretty awesome.
     
  25. Chuck_Schick

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    Really bummed out. Got hammered last night and the wife wasn't too happy. Woke up this morning wondering why this football team effects my life so much, and am questioning why I burn so many calories bleeding black and gold.

    That said, I really don't think it's time to start calling for coaching changes. It will effect our recruiting, and it will effect the team on the field. The "beat" writers are watching and stories will be posted in the DP and BZ soon about everybody bitching. It's game one. The team is very young and I have faith they will learn from this crushing loss and improve.

    I know EB personally and trust me... He's a lot more devastated than anybody on this website. He thought the o-line could do their job, but they got got dominated. That's what happened yesterday, and why we lost. Any other analysis is just stupid. The o-line got their asses handed to them from start to finish.
     
  26. MtnBuff

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    And this is inexcusable. This is supposed to be our most talented, most experienced group and they were playing against a team that was young, slow, undersized, and lacked depth on the DL.

    We have seen Marshalls act before. Cal was glad to see him go. Recruiting isn't a concern because he has also shown himself to be a pathetic recruiter. Colorado has had the best two years worth of O-Line prospects in recent memory and maybe ever and the Might Marshall has impressed how many that this is the right place to go?

    Special teams is also a disaster. You can argue legitimately that CU lacks the depth of pure athletes that seems to be the hallmark of really good special teams schools but there is no excuse for the lack of coordination and discipline, no excuse for the poor decision making, no excuse for the lack of confidence to even try simple field goals that should have given us the points to win the game instead of a bad decision on special teams in putting a rookie back to field a punt that didn't need fielding costing us the TD that turned the game against us. Last year (or lost year maybe more correctly) we couldn't block for our kicker, this year we can't be bothered to rush the kicker on FGs against us. A change in special teams had better happen or a different coach who can and will change it better be brought in.
     
  27. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    "Every sliver lining has a touch of grey"
     
  28. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Well, maybe all our players got the fumble jitters out of the way now?
     
  29. manhattanbuf

    manhattanbuf Well-Known Member

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    We should have beaten CSU. We did not. It's now time to go back to the drawing board. I made suggestions about what we need to do to get better. We had nice separation on deep PA and saw nice things from some younger players. Hell, Spruce impressed the hell out of me too. I am not saying that I am confident that we'll beat the bulk of our schedule. Our team is facing adversity and our team/its coaches need to respond. What else do you expect -- for them to simply give up after one game? I do believe our staff and players have more fortitude than that.

    The bottom line is that if we don't improve over last year, the heat will be on this staff in year three. If next year is another debacle, this staff will be finished. I do believe that a coaching staff should get AT LEAST two years to coach full cycles of players they recruit (i.e. five years). I realize that big time college football doesn't afford that kind of patience. But, we ran out a ton of inexperienced but talented players in the two deep. Many of our players with experience aren't very good; they're simply the best we have at the moment (e.g. interior O-Line).

    And yes, we are injured. The next man up will have to be better. We've been terrible for nearly ten years. Expecting quality depth at this stage in the game is supererogatory. Let's get a W next weekend and hope that we get things better figured out with each practice and each game. At the same time, I'm being a realist while bracing for another long season.
     
  30. Hi.O

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    The only silver lining I see isn't from this game, but from other games this weekend. A lot of teams that I thought were pretty good struggled and looked pretty bad: OU-UTEP, UGA-Buffalo, UF-Bowling Green, Iowa-Northern Illinois, Pitt-Youngstown.
     

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